vikingTON Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 The removal of so many Tory whips complicates an arithmetic that would otherwise favour the gammon side in an FPTP election though. If a dozen of them decide to stand again then that could split the Tory vote in their constituencies and either let a third party in or keep the incumbent in place: that could lead to another hung parliament, which would be fucking hilarious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 31 minutes ago, Detournement said: I think Boris will sit tight. Parliament can pass as many 'laws' as they like but he has executive power and can't be forced to agree an extension. If Parliament is unhappy with the PM then the mechanism is VONC not shonky legislation. A I understand it, that stands for Prime Minister, not President. It's either a minor point, or a completely different form of governance. One of the two. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Rory Stewart getting P45'd as an independent candidate would be a great watch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: A I understand it, that stands for Prime Minister, not President. It's either a minor point, or a completely different form of governance. One of the two. The Prime Minister has executive powers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Ok looks like my panic is calming down a bit. Everyone but the buffoon can see the blindingly obvious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 23 minutes ago, dorlomin said: Labour's move here is to enforce an extension of A50 and push the election to November. The new leader bounce will be out of Boris's step and he will look like he is being bullied by Corbyn on Brexit, a poor look for his populist image of "getting things done". All they have to do is refuse his pleading for a bill to dissolve parliament before the anti No Deal legislation is on the books then run down the clock till his poroguing of parliament bites him on the bum. Only offer to support dissolution of parliament with a A50 extension nailed. Boris will try to get an election at any cost before Oct31 so he can win off the back of his bullshit posturing. If they allow parliament to dissolve for an election before Oct 31, No Deal is pretty much nailed on. Edited Off course I still think the best course is a VONC and installing a caretaker coalition but it does not look like that has legs atm. Pretty much agree with all of this, except for the idea that there is still any vestige of a "Boris bounce" in play. Johnson displayed such incompetence yesterday that I am worried there may not be too much hilarity left for PMQs today - a pantomime, as we know, but the bit of "that politics" that Mr and Mrs Average see and take note of. The best decision this fúcknugget's handlers made throughout his leadership campaign was keeping the cúnt away from cameras and microphones. That is no longer an option. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, NotThePars said: Tim Shipman making up an embarrassing altercation for Corbyn with Dominic Cummings 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: A mate of mine (recently left the Tories lol) regularly holds up **** Shipman and Montie as an example of Conservative thinkers but they're really just gossips with WhatsApp contacts inside No10. ETA: Creased at their first name being starred out on this hell site. Edited September 4, 2019 by NotThePars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, dorlomin said: Ok looks like my panic is calming down a bit. Everyone but the buffoon can see the blindingly obvious. Source: FT Journalist. You'll forgive me if I take that with a wheelbarrow of salt - especially as Corbyn basically ruled that out - on camera, national TV, around fourteen hours ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: Source: FT Journalist. You'll forgive me if I take that with a wheelbarrow of salt - especially as Corbyn basically ruled that out - on camera, national TV, around fourteen hours ago. What's that got to do with the views of the PLP who have been seventeen moves ahead of the Mumbleclown at every turn? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, NotThePars said: So far we've had: Tim Shipman making up an embarrassing altercation for Corbyn with Dominic Cummings Someone insisting last night's vote was good for Boris, actually James Ball and Helen Lewis insisting criticism of Daniel Finkelstein preferring No Deal to Corbyn is anti-semitism Journos pretending they can't wrap their heads around the opposition strategy All in all it's set to be a banner day for British journalism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenanover Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 34 minutes ago, renton said: Think you were going for portentous there, using brevity to add a bit of edginess, but the response didn't really make sense in terms of the question I asked. It makes perfect sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, virginton said: What's that got to do with the views of the PLP who have been seventeen moves ahead of the Mumbleclown at every turn? Absolutely nothing. Your point, caller? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 This PMQ is fucking mental. Johnson appears to believe his job is to ask Corbyn what he's going to do about Brexit, rather than answer questions about his own policies. It's an original tactic, I'll grant you, but Raaab and Javid really don't look happy. Good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 25 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: Oh, you've just GOT to post us a link for that! I love a bit of newspeak and doublethnk, me Quentin Letts and Toby Young. https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/09/corbyn-not-boris-was-the-real-loser-last-night/amp/?__twitter_impression=true 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: This PMQ is fucking mental. Johnson appears to believe his job is to ask Corbyn what he's going to do about Brexit, rather than answer questions about his own policies. It's an original tactic, I'll grant you, but Raaab and Javid really don't look happy. Good. Wouldn't you have thought Corbyn should have said - "I'm supposed to be asking you questions" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Quentin Letts and Toby Young. https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/09/corbyn-not-boris-was-the-real-loser-last-night/amp/?__twitter_impression=true Thanks, mate. Cheering me right up, the last couple of days. Some of these cúnts just can't feel the wind changing, can they? Meanwhile, in PMQs, Johnson continues to ASK questions, rather than even think about answering them. Sunlight is indeed the best disinfectant. 8 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Wouldn't you have thought Corbyn should have said - "I'm supposed to be asking you questions" I kinda thought that, but he's simply rolled every question out with an introductory statement that the previous one wasn't answered. I'd have been more direct, but I'm not Leader of the Party. ETA: Blackford just there using exactly the tactic you and I would. Edited September 4, 2019 by WhiteRoseKillie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: Thanks, mate. Cheering me right up, the last couple of days. Some of these cúnts just can't feel the wind changing, can they? Meanwhile, in PMQs, Johnson continues to ASK questions, rather than even think about answering them. Sunlight is indeed the best disinfectant. I kinda thought that, but he's simply rolled every question out with an introductory statement that the previous one wasn't answered. I'd have been more direct, but I'm not Leader of the Party. At least Blackford managed to point out that the PM is supposed to answer questions, rather than put questions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 The opposition maybe fragmenting tactically already. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The opposition maybe fragmenting tactically already. An election which gives the SNP 51 seats and still has a Tory win is perfect for Scottish independence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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