Sarto Mutiny Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Mark Connolly said: Have our 5 wins all come at different times, or is there a specific time that it might be worth trying to move all our games to? Aberdeen (home), Saturday 6pm Hibs (home) Tuesday 7:45pm Kilmarnock (home) Wednesday 7:45pm Ross County (home) Wednesday 7:45pm St Johnstone (away) Monday 3pm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 12 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Looking at the table on December 17th compared to now while discussing us, and thought it was an interesting one. Motherwell managing to fly up the table and secure safety despite losing 6 of their last 14 games is certainly something. United been fucked from the start, but have claimed more points over this period than St Johnstone, who have absolutely plummeted despite the large, strong, squad being relatively unharmed in terms of injuries/suspensions/sales. Feels Hibs-esque where the chat is about top 6 and then all of a sudden are in the play offs. This was Hibs the season they went down, FWIW. Fucking hell that Hibs collapse was a bit special. That's a generational bottle crash, tbh. I personally can't see County reeling you in, but you could well finish below Killie. You'll be fine, though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 7 hours ago, Coventry Saint said: Fucking hell that Hibs collapse was a bit special. That's a generational bottle crash, tbh. I personally can't see County reeling you in, but you could well finish below Killie. You'll be fine, though. 13 games without a win to finish the season, last win coming on February 15th. The manager spoke about targeting the top 6 regularly. Started with 3 draws in 5 games then just collapsed into losses. Our last win on 18th February. Currently have 2 draws in 4 matches and 0 wins. Our manager has spoken multiple times abour targeting the top half and we have a player (Cammy MacPherson) whos a jinx. Spoke about overtaking Hearts in December (we've collapsed since) then spoke about winning all 5 games in the build up to the split and making the top half (we've not won any so far). Next week huge. We lose to County and the whole atmosphere at the club changes. We struggle badly to get out a rut under Davidson. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 5 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: 13 games without a win to finish the season, last win coming on February 15th. That Hibs side had just chucked it under Butcher. They played us and we scored within 15 seconds, had Goodwin sent off and still cruised to the win. We ended up being the first team in the bottom 6 'safe' that year strangely enough, despite being 7 points off Hibs in that table at game 30! Surprised how poor St Johnstone's form has been. Was a point in the season where I thought they might push on and join in with the top 6 battle. I can't see you not picking up more points to be safe enough come the end of the season. County game is however massive psychologically given that would cut it to 5 points with a defeat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 We've been lucky last season and so far this season that we've had teams performing worse than us( surprisingly). We won't be that lucky again for a third season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarto Mutiny Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 It puts huge pressure on our game against Hibs on the Sunday if Ross County get the win on the Saturday. Which they probably will, the gits. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, flyingscot said: Surprised how poor St Johnstone's form has been. Was a point in the season where I thought they might push on and join in with the top 6 battle. I can't see you not picking up more points to be safe enough come the end of the season. County game is however massive psychologically given that would cut it to 5 points with a defeat. Keep trying to convince myself we're only 1 win from guaranteed safety and theres no chance we dont manage that. But at the same time we've won 4 games since October, had a run earlier this season of 6 losses in a row, last season managed a 10 game winless run. Our only striker options are Stevie May, Zak Rudden and Theo Bair, while our goalkeepers form is falling off a cliff weekly and our most reliable CB is now getting a red card every month. As it stands 5 of Saturdays starting line up (probably the strongest we can play in the shape we always play) are out of contract this Summer. Cant help but feel like our plummet will be obvious when looking at it retrospectively. Edited April 4, 2023 by RandomGuy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ludo*1 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Dundee United finishing on the exact same amount of points as a Mark McGhee led Dundee side did last season would be hilarious. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: If we finish 0.3 points behind hearts I hope we take it to court. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 I feel like the anomaly of 2014 is mentioned almost every season in the relegation thread(s) by fans worried that their side will "do a Hibs." Not sure of RG's already done this, but it would be interesting to see how the change in teams occupying the relegation spots - my gut feeling is that it doesn't change all that much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: If we finish 0.3 points behind hearts I hope we take it to court. Hearts? Court? 8 games to go this season? Edited April 4, 2023 by johnnydun 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarto Mutiny Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 hour ago, accies1874 said: I feel like the anomaly of 2014 is mentioned almost every season in the relegation thread(s) by fans worried that their side will "do a Hibs." Not sure of RG's already done this, but it would be interesting to see how the change in teams occupying the relegation spots - my gut feeling is that it doesn't change all that much. I get that football fans are pessimistic creatures, but we are not going to get to the number of points that St Johnstone are currently on. Not happening 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Just for the sake of clearing it up, my worry is solely that we finish 11th. Theres zero chance both United and County can overtake us with so few games remaining, IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Sarto Mutiny said: I get that football fans are pessimistic creatures, but we are not going to get to the number of points that St Johnstone are currently on. Not happening Hibs didn't finish bottom that season though - it would only require County (and us) to catch up with Saints for them to have a chance of going down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 4 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Does that consider the pre and post split issues? As an example a team being in top 6 after the next few games ending up with less points than a team that fails to hit the split top 6? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 20 minutes ago, Molotov said: Does that consider the pre and post split issues? As an example a team being in top 6 after the next few games ending up with less points than a team that fails to hit the split top 6? I dont think it will, but unsure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: I dont think it will, but unsure. You’re the nominated stats guy on P&B. We need correct answers not guesses! I agree. I don’t think it’s calculated with the split considered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 38 still my benchmark figure for 100% safety. Motherwell can probably take a sigh of relief. They could lose all 7 remaining games and still likely be safe. Very much looks like United are fucked. They play Hibs tomorrow. St Johnstone getting sucked into the play off battle again, somehow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munoz Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: 38 still my benchmark figure for 100% safety. Motherwell can probably take a sigh of relief. They could lose all 7 remaining games and still likely be safe. Very much looks like United are fucked. They play Hibs tomorrow. St Johnstone getting sucked into the play off battle again, somehow. Beginning to look interesting way down below. Edited April 8, 2023 by Munoz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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