Savage Henry Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 New taste Irn Bru can indeed melt steel beams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Adam101 said: They would have to be pretty good simulators to give them the experience of flying that size of plane I don't dispute any of those details, just that the official story is far from comprehensive, the pentagon is one of the most survailed sites in the world yet the US gov only released one image of the plane in flight, it seems odd. I think it is odd that he flew the plane in the manner he did. Desperate. You were telling us how someone with such little flight experience could have flown a plane with some kind of military skill. Turns out the he had a commercial pilots license and the plane was flown with little concern for passenger well being not any particularly unusual skills (other than unsafe speeds so low for a passenger carrying vehicle). Now without explaining what happened to the aircraft and what hit the Pentagon you are left moaning about not enough photographs being evidence of something or other that you cannot explain. Get a grip. Edited October 26, 2019 by dorlomin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 hour ago, johnnydun said: For saying you are a straight male? Sorry, I got it wrong. I'm having a laugh laddie.. Calm doon ffs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dele said: I'm having a laugh laddie.. Calm doon ffs. I know, I was not long up. Appologies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 On 25/10/2019 at 11:28, Dee Man said: Just to lower the tone for a moment if I may, imagine the amount of people in those offices that must have seen those planes heading towards them and knowing their time was up and they weren't going to see their families again. Fucking hell. Have a great day everyone. Wouldn’t they all have known that the aluminium planes were supposed to just bounce off the buildings though? That must have reassured them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Surely if 9 11 was an inside job pretext for attacking Iraq, they would have invented some sort of connection with Iraq? Oh aye, and actually invaded Iraq first instead of dicking about in Afghanistan for a couple of years? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 6 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: He said "cranks", not "yanks". You're making a distinction? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, Fullerene said: You're making a distinction? 6hrs? Tsk, tsk. (All yanks may be cranks, but all cranks are not necessarily yanks.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Jacksgranda said: 6hrs? Tsk, tsk. (All yanks may be cranks, but all cranks are not necessarily yanks.) Football game got in the way of things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Just now, Fullerene said: Football game got in the way of things. Do you not know - Internet, serious business? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: Do you not know - Internet, serious business? 3 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: Do you not know - Internet, serious business? Now that you have said it twice I guess it must be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, D.A.F.C said: Good points, but they also benefited from war. I don’t believe that they actually had any involvement or even actually wished for any of it just that it’s more of a question than were the towers blown up because at least there was plenty of politicians in America itching to get involved with the Middle East. https://www.newstatesman.com/node/192545 This is what people should be talking about, the reaction to 9/11 and how they used it an excuse to invade Iraq. This chain of events is still causing death and destruction now. Like you say though this hasn’t necessarily worked out well unless you have investments in war or oil. Which many of these politicians do. Anybody American who knew 9/11 was going to happen but failed to stop it would have been a fool. By comparison Pearl Harbor was a great success - America only lost 3 battleships ultimately (since the rest were repaired) and used it as an excuse to enter a war that turned it into the superpower that it is today. Ironically, the USS Phoenix survived the attack but was later sunk by the Royal Navy in 1982. America gained a lot of sympathy from 9/11 and could have used it better to make the world a better place but failed to do so. Iraq was invaded because Iraq tried to import some aluminium tubes from Australia (oh no - that metal again). The CIA was ease-dropping and a lot of powerful Americans were persuaded that Saddam was up to no good. They did not need much persuading. One connection between 9/11 and Iraq is Tony Blair. As I mentioned America got sympathy for 9/11 but Tony Blair went one step further. He flew over there to attend congress in as much as to say "Hey, I'm your bestest, bestest friend". Once he did that, his foreign policy was totally compromised to be subservient to America on all issues. Edited October 26, 2019 by Fullerene 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Fullerene said: Anybody American who knew 9/11 was going to happen but failed to stop it would have been a fool. By comparison Pearl Harbor was a great success - America only lost 3 battleships ultimately (since the rest were repaired) and used it as an excuse to enter a war that turned it into the superpower that it is totally. Ironically, the USS Phoenix survived the attack but was later sunk by the Royal Navy in 1982. America gained a lot of sympathy from 9/11 and could have used it better to make the world a better place but failed to do so. Iraq was invaded because Iraq tried to import some aluminium tubes from Australia (oh no - that metal again). The CIA was ease-dropping and a lot of powerful Americans were persuaded that Saddam was up to no good. They did not need much persuading. One connection between 9/11 and Iraq is Tony Blair. As I mentioned America got sympathy for 9/11 but Tony Blair went one step further. He flew over there to attend congress in as much as to say "Hey, I'm your bestest, bestest friend". Once he did that, his foreign policy was totally compromised to be subservient to America on all issues. F***, have you not got another football match to go to? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: F***, have you not got another football match to go to? As a matter of fact, I went to see Bayern Munich against Union Berlin today. I would tell you all about it but I am not sure if anybody here is interested in football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearthammer Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Just now, Fullerene said: As a matter of fact, I went to see Bayern Munich against Union Berlin today. I would tell you all about it but I am not sure if anybody here is interested in football. Different thread, mate 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I wonder if there was a flying instructor sitting looking at his watch wondering where the Arabic blokes were when they should have been at their landing lesson. "That's it, I'm away. On their own head be it." Or maybe "Happy landings, guys." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Fullerene said: Iraq was invaded because Iraq tried to import some aluminium tubes from Australia (oh no - that metal again). The CIA was ease-dropping and a lot of powerful Americans were persuaded that Saddam was up to no good. They did not need much persuading. Disagree. Iraq was invaded because some idealistic neocons thought they had a once in a lifetime chance after 9/11 to turn the Middle East into a free market paradise of democratic Israeli friendly capitalism, making everyone rich, including them personally and the Arab people. They got the help of Iran to persuade public opinion that it was necessary by using Iranian agents like Ahmed Chalabi to pretend to America that Saddam had WMD. It was a brilliant play by Iran, got their global biggest foe to wipe out their neighbouring biggest foe, and give them effective control over Iraq, while America learnt the costs of military adventures in the Middle East for a generation. Edited October 26, 2019 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearthammer Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Wasn't it a major stroke of luck that Larry Silverstein, who bought the ageing (by 2001 standards), problematic towers with mainly "investors" money in the March (??) of 2001, managed to insured them individually specifically against "terrorist" attacks. He only found out, apparently, that he had a "dermatology" appointment on the very morning of 11 September from his wife, as he was preparing to go to his office in the towers. What good fortune, sir. This cretin, who made in excess of 4bn in insurance payments, along with the intellectually-challenged Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney and the lesser known insiders who scored big-time financially from the "puts" on the companies in the towers and airlines deserve to be prosecuted and punished for 3000+ crimes against their own people. God bless America and the "patriots". Anyway, i'm back to the boxing and a few mair shandies. Rant over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Rangers getting let into the 3rd division was a conspiracy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 hour ago, hearthammer said: Wasn't it a major stroke of luck that Larry Silverstein, who bought the ageing (by 2001 standards), problematic towers with mainly "investors" money in the March (??) of 2001, managed to insured them individually specifically against "terrorist" attacks. He only found out, apparently, that he had a "dermatology" appointment on the very morning of 11 September from his wife, as he was preparing to go to his office in the towers. What good fortune, sir. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing He insured a building that had been attacked by terrorists from being attacked by terrorists, and al Queda co-ordinated with him and his engagements calendar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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