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Yes, like everything right now it is inconclusive. It is not currently peer reviewed.

The point being, its not cut and dried that it is a case of immunity after catching it. At this point we really don’t know.

We've got to be on the lookout obviously, but the default position is that you will have immunity.

That's the norm for these types of viruses - with a very small number of cases that get it a second time.

That's an important distinction. It's inconclusive but very likely we will have immunity. Pretending we're just guessing at this stage is not helpful.
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5 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said:

Crazy indeed but harmless in the circumstances. Plenty of reasons to hate people but this one's way down my list.

Fine, but we need a Petty Pandemic Things That Get On Your Nerves thread, in that case.

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Crazy indeed but harmless in the circumstances. Plenty of reasons to hate people but this one's way down my list.
There's absolutely nowt wrong with that kind of stuff. Anything that connects people more with their local community is a good thing.
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2 minutes ago, pandarilla said:
12 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said:
Crazy indeed but harmless in the circumstances. Plenty of reasons to hate people but this one's way down my list.

There's absolutely nowt wrong with that kind of stuff. Anything that connects people more with their local community is a good thing.

Presuming you mean anything that connects people to the local community without putting others at risk (as I'm sure you do) then absolutely.

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3 minutes ago, pandarilla said:

There's absolutely nowt wrong with that kind of stuff. Anything that connects people more with their local community is a good thing.

You'd have found positives in working the fields during Year Zero, let's be honest.

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11 minutes ago, pandarilla said:

We've got to be on the lookout obviously, but the default position is that you will have immunity.

That's the norm for these types of viruses - with a very small number of cases that get it a second time.

That's an important distinction. It's inconclusive but very likely we will have immunity. Pretending we're just guessing at this stage is not helpful.

I'm not suggesting the Bairnardos of this world don't breath a bit easier after having it, I'm just advising to keep taking precautions rather than going about their day with a billybigbaws attitude until more data becomes available , better safe than sorry. 

 

 

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I guess this isn't a surprise. Presumably Hancock will blame the doctors for using too many key drugs.                                                                                 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52150861

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We've got to be on the lookout obviously, but the default position is that you will have immunity.

That's the norm for these types of viruses - with a very small number of cases that get it a second time.

That's an important distinction. It's inconclusive but very likely we will have immunity. Pretending we're just guessing at this stage is not helpful.


‘Guessing’ would be your word not mine. I’m making no point other than it is inconclusive just now as there is factual evidence of possible re-infection and low/no immunity from unsupported, but still controlled testing. Neither of these support either side of the debate at this point. Neither side can’t claim to be correct.

Having immunity is a working hypothesis and until enough of an understanding of this virus is there, it can only be that.

I am not on either side of this discussion at its far to early to really know.

Its like many issues in the world, fear (or ignorance) of the unknown brings out the worst in people. (that is a general statement, not directed at anyone in particular).

I mentioned on another thread a long time ago, that this virus would become very politicised and its clearly has and will continue to get worse.

It will be a long time in the future before any of this can be debated and picked through with any amount of clarity.

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Looking at Spain and Italy, their Peak death day came 6 days after their peak case day.

For us in the UK, that would have been yesterday, and for Scotland, the day previous.

Interestingly, figures for the UK and Scotland are pretty much in line with that at the moment. Fingers crossed the coming days continue to follow the Spanish and Italian paths.

 

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1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said:

Looking at Spain and Italy, their Peak death day came 6 days after their peak case day.

For us in the UK, that would have been yesterday, and for Scotland, the day previous.

Interestingly, figures for the UK and Scotland are pretty much in line with that at the moment. Fingers crossed the coming days continue to follow the Spanish and Italian paths.

 

Denmark are reopening schools this week after 11 days or so of falling case numbers.
 

I don’t know why we can’t do the same.

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22 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

Denmark are reopening schools this week after 11 days or so of falling case numbers.
 

I don’t know why we can’t do the same.

How is Denmark situated for numbers of regular Hospital/ICU beds compared to the UK? They could be in a better position for avoiding their health service being overwhelmed. With the much higher case numbers and deaths in the UK there’s no guarantee the numbers may have decreased significantly enough even after eleven days of falling numbers.

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I’ve given up watch the news.

The MSM are not great at best of times but have sunk to a new low during this crisis with their lack of scrutiny.

As other have said a couple of weeks ago Italy and France were being portrayed as disaster areas yet the equivalent death rate in the UK is being reported completely differently.

ETA also how the government is getting away with the same bullshit about PPE and ventilators every day virtually unchallenged is appalling.

 

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How on earth can you deduce that yesterday was our peak. That could only be claimed after a number of days of sustained reduction.

Looking at Spain and Italy, their Peak death day came 6 days after their peak case day.
For us in the UK, that would have been yesterday, and for Scotland, the day previous.
Interestingly, figures for the UK and Scotland are pretty much in line with that at the moment. Fingers crossed the coming days continue to follow the Spanish and Italian paths.
 
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