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56 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said:
1 hour ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

I must say you simply cannot beat the french when it cones to having a strike or protest. Do something we don’t like? Well we’ll just shut down the whole country and turn the place upside down. You’re move, cunto

I have vague recollections of an Air France (or somebody else in that sector) strike where a striker tore the shirt right off the back of some CEO type.

They can be incredibly militant, and frankly pretty terrifying, when their jobs are threatened. Knowing someone who dealt with this from the management side, they had rats nailed to crosses with their name on them, effigies of them burned, management meetings were broken into where phones and laptops were taken and smashed with hammers and latterly colleagues had acid thrown in their faces. Eventually had ex-SAS security with them at all times and ridiculous action movie-esque decoy cars etc, due to the death threats.

And this was shutting down something that was loss-making. Nuts.

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The best thing about the polls are the seething comments from people who disagree with the poll and decide it must be nonsense because they were never asked. 

It is disheartening to be in the minority, granted, but it is what it is. Wonder if opinion will be the same as we approach Christmas and the case rate has shot up again... 

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The best thing about the polls are the seething comments from people who disagree with the poll and decide it must be nonsense because they were never asked. 
It is disheartening to be in the minority, granted, but it is what it is. Wonder if opinion will be the same as we approach Christmas and the case rate has shot up again... 
Usually from people who are hindsight experts who think they are right and everyone else is wrong.

I certainly would not want to be a political leader right now in any country - all over the world they are trying different things - yet almost all of them have increasing rates of infection.

Rock and hard place comes to mind - the tough restrictions that might have an effect have really negative effects in terms of civil liberties, social and economic costs - so governments probably don't go as far as they could - and consequently restrictions are not implemented effectively.

An effective vaccine is the only thing I think is going to make this tolerable in the long run. Everything else is about mitigating the worst effects of both the virus and the restrictions themselves.
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22 minutes ago, Michael W said:

The best thing about the polls are the seething comments from people who disagree with the poll and decide it must be nonsense because they were never asked. 

It is disheartening to be in the minority, granted, but it is what it is. Wonder if opinion will be the same as we approach Christmas and the case rate has shot up again... 

Well they never asked me 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

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What are peoples' observations on adherence to the "No visiting other households" rule?
In the SG "paper" released on Tuesday, they said that 97% of respondees to a survey said they were following that rule.
As one of the virtue signalling middle class working from home on full pay, I've seen friends and family of most of my neighbours entering their homes since that rule returned.
I've been visiting my mum to help her out once or twice a week. My dad's in hospital long term following a bowel cancer op which he followed up by tripping over his hospital bed sheets going for a pish and breaking his hip [emoji58].
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27 minutes ago, Szamo's_Ammo said:

The replies to this one:

Twitter in a nutshell. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

I feel sorry for folk with real mental health issues.  I’m sure the stress of COVID has pushed some into this category and made others worse.

However not being able to go to the pub is not a mental health issue.  It is getting overused by everyone who has an objection to the restrictions.

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5 hours ago, madwullie said:

Did he say uk? 

 

Well if he meant 'in the whole world' then even the 'thousands' claim is pretty fucking meaningless, isn't it?

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Edit: I know 2 people who were hospitalised. Both have damage showing in lungs on cxr and ct.

Well that's us up to 2, if the people in question are actually between 20 and 39. We can also throw in a friend that I know who claims to have struggled recovering, but given that they were working in a hospital in London in February-March I doubt that's particularly representative of a typical case.

Just the multiple thousands still left to go then!

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We have no idea how common it is.

Rather strange defence to make of a post that was 100% certain that 'thousands' of 20-30 year olds in the UK have been floored by the long Covid bogeyman tbh. Either we do know in which case that figure is obviously bollocks, or we don't know in which case it's only almost certainly bollocks.

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1 minute ago, Granny Danger said:

I feel sorry for folk with real mental health issues.  I’m sure the stress of COVID has pushed some into this category and made others worse.

However not being able to go to the pub is not a mental health issue.  It is getting overused by everyone who has an objection to the restrictions.

What about people who work in pubs? Or people who have close family and friends who work in hospitality? Maybe a lot of people are worried they are going to see struggling faamily and not be in a position to help them. And that is on top of the huge unemployment figures and the looming risk of more and more businesses downsizing and letting people go. Every other day there seems to be a good sized company swirling the drain.

And then the added health worries. Anxiety about not being able to visit elderly relatives or friends. General detachment from socialising.

It isn't just about going to the pub. The coronavirus is a multi-front assault for a lot of people.

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4 hours ago, Szamo's_Ammo said:

What are peoples' observations on adherence to the "No visiting other households" rule?

In the SG "paper" released on Tuesday, they said that 97% of respondees to a survey said they were following that rule.

As one of the virtue signalling middle class working from home on full pay, I've seen friends and family of most of my neighbours entering their homes since that rule returned.

My neighbor through the wall has a pal come round, same guy been coming round for months though so I don't care.  Otherwise nobody else breaking it in the block that I can hear/see.  

I actually broke my first rule tonight and went for the pub funeral with two households, I've blindly followed until now. 

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19 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

What about people who work in pubs? Or people who have close family and friends who work in hospitality? Maybe a lot of people are worried they are going to see struggling faamily and not be in a position to help them. And that is on top of the huge unemployment figures and the looming risk of more and more businesses downsizing and letting people go. Every other day there seems to be a good sized company swirling the drain.

And then the added health worries. Anxiety about not being able to visit elderly relatives or friends. General detachment from socialising.

It isn't just about going to the pub. The coronavirus is a multi-front assault for a lot of people.

No you’re right.  Everyone has mental health issues these days.  Maybe I’m the only person who doesn’t have a problem.  I’m simply pissed off with it all.

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3 hours ago, doulikefish said:

Furlough sceme extended for businesses affected by local lockdowns....that will be the pubs down south getting shut aswell 

Is it? Sounded like a new scheme 2/3rds of wage. 

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