Bairnardo Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Manifesto said: The part I quoted Wait.... Tarmos latest alias? Il leave you to it for now brother, if it's all the same. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Iv said it before on here, but once medicine provides a reasonable level of protection for the vulnerable, the vulnerable no longer have an at all costs right to be protected from it or a right not to die from it. And if that sounds crass to you, then you just have to have a think about how the health service works. The price to protect people from covid has been unprecedented because there was nothing available to protect. I don't get where you thought I was suggesting that. I'm just saying that if you're offered a vaccine and refuse it you're making a choice to deliberately put others at risk, and if enough people refuse it will force vulnerable people to stay cooped up indoors, and all these boring restrictions will continue. And you're not getting on my fucking plane. Edited November 21, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I don't get where you thought I was suggesting that. I'm just saying that if you're offered a vaccine and refuse it you're making a choice to deliberately put others at risk, and if enough people refuse it will force vulnerable people to stay cooped up indoors, and all these boring restrictions will continue. And you're not getting on my fucking plane. I suppose you are right in that a deliberate refusal puts others at risk, but at risk categories will be done first so I imagine its minimal and people who are unable to to take the vaccine will be a very small number. So that leaves us with is it reasonable to say Britain is closed to anyone who cannot provide proof of vaccination to protect this population, when the same population can and maybe will be put at the exact same risk by our own population? -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Bairnardo said: Wait.... Tarmos latest alias? Il leave you to it for now brother, if it's all the same. wunfellaff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Miguel Sanchez said: wunfellaff I assume he has been others too? This has more than a sniff of Tarmo but willing to be told otherwise. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 57 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: I assume he has been others too? This has more than a sniff of Tarmo but willing to be told otherwise. No, pretty sure wunfellaff has been gone since ~April, not everybody is Chairman Mao or Jeremiah Cole 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Apologies if this has been posted already but I see that Midlothian, due to move to Tier 2 next Tuesday, is currently hitting around 96.3 cases per 100,000. Well above the "magical" 75 cases per 100,000 that is the apparent threshold for Tier 2 / 3 restrictions. If that carries on I guess the change in restrictions will be cancelled? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, RiG said: Apologies if this has been posted already but I see that Midlothian, due to move to Tier 2 next Tuesday, is currently hitting around 96.3 cases per 100,000. Well above the "magical" 75 cases per 100,000 that is the apparent threshold for Tier 2 / 3 restrictions. If that carries on I guess the change in restrictions will be cancelled? Hadn't realised that Midlothian, and presumably East Lothian, don't move to tier 2 until Tuesday. All the councils that moved to tier 4 did so on Friday at 6pm did they not? So am I right in thinking if you move down a tier it happens the following Friday, but if you go up a tier you have to wait a week? Looking at those numbers, yes, every chance their 'promotion' will be cancelled. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Sridhar almost making a good point, before Hibsing it in the last two sentences. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: Sridhar almost making a good point, before Hibsing it in the last two sentences. It’s quite nostalgic. I can recall speaking about Karma and vibes back in the 60s/70s. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Devi hearing you're dying of Covid 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrExile Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Steven W said: Hadn't realised that Midlothian, and presumably East Lothian, don't move to tier 2 until Tuesday. All the councils that moved to tier 4 did so on Friday at 6pm did they not? So am I right in thinking if you move down a tier it happens the following Friday, but if you go up a tier you have to wait a week? Looking at those numbers, yes, every chance their 'promotion' will be cancelled. Are they actually moving on Tuesday? I thought at the time Sturgeon mentioned she hoped next Tuesday to announce they were moving down a tier. Rather than being definite this was just thrown in to offset the bad news that was coming. At the end of the coverage the news teams were mentioning this like it was a given 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) The wife is an actual biomedical scientist for the NHS and just looked at me with incredulity when I said it would be good to have had the vaccine by March. "are you going to take it?" Bearing in mind I'm pretty high risk were I to catch it. There's not enough face-palm emojis to describe my feelings Edited November 21, 2020 by madwullie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, AyrExile said: Are they actually moving on Tuesday? I thought at the time Sturgeon mentioned she hoped next Tuesday to announce they were moving down a tier. Rather than being definite this was just thrown in to offset the bad news that was coming. At the end of the coverage the news teams were mentioning this like it was a given I thought it was a definite, but wouldn't be first time I got something wrong! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Steven W said: I thought it was a definite, but wouldn't be first time I got something wrong! Sure they said Mid and East lothian will be in tier 2 from tuesday. Can see us back in tier 3 if these cases keep going up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy boo Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 The wife is an actual biomedical scientist for the NHS and just looked at me with incredulity when I said it would be good to have had the vaccine by March. "are you going to take it?" Bearing in mind I'm pretty high risk were I to catch it. There's not enough face-palm emojis to describe my feelings [emoji2357] Is she saying you shouldn't take it then as your post doesn't make it clear. And if not why not? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 So it would seem most areas in England are likely to come out of their lockdown and straight into the top tier of restrictions according to the BBC. What is it with the govt leaking this information at half 10 on a Saturday nigbt? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, mizfit said: So it would seem most areas in England are likely to come out of their lockdown and straight into the top tier of restrictions according to the BBC. What is it with the govt leaking this information at half 10 on a Saturday night? They're c***s. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, jimmy boo said: 2 hours ago, madwullie said: The wife is an actual biomedical scientist for the NHS and just looked at me with incredulity when I said it would be good to have had the vaccine by March. "are you going to take it?" Bearing in mind I'm pretty high risk were I to catch it. There's not enough face-palm emojis to describe my feelings Is she saying you shouldn't take it then as your post doesn't make it clear. And if not why not? I was scared to ask. It does worry me a bit that they seem to be pushing emergency authorisation before the minimum stage of phase 3 testing is complete. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, mizfit said: So it would seem most areas in England are likely to come out of their lockdown and straight into the top tier of restrictions according to the BBC. What is it with the govt leaking this information at half 10 on a Saturday nigbt? Lockdown restrictions to be relaxed for a week for Christmas too. Another lockdown in January it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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