Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Thereisalight..]

I often wonder what position we’d be in now if the UK had “shut the borders” in regards to flights in and out of the UK whilst it was known that covid was ripping through Wuhan and Spain/Italy etc. Still baffles me that at a time when we couldn’t travel 5 miles for anything non essential, flights were still coming in and out of the country with people that werent tested or told to isolate 

[Todd_is_God]

15 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

So you're not going to vote because there's nobody better?

At Christmas time especially, it must be difficult to accept that Saint Nic must join Saint Nick on the mythical persons list.

Your friends here, though, will get you through this difficult time

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Edited December 20, 2020 by Todd_is_God

[welshbairn]

2 minutes ago, virginton said:

Scotland - 110k+ cases, 4200 deaths

Ireland - 78k cases, 2100 deaths

Norway - 43k; 404 

Finland - 33k; 489.

Yep, nobody could possibly have done a better job than the clowncar country now on lockdown 3 for the year.

And all pretty much in lockdown 3 too.

[welshbairn]

Just now, Todd_is_God said:

At Christmas time especially, it must be difficult to accept that Saint Nic must join Saint Nick on the mythical persons list.

Your friends here will get you through this difficult time

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And you still can't think of anyone better to vote for in May.

[Todd_is_God]

Just now, welshbairn said:

And you still can't think of anyone better to vote for in May.

 

[welshbairn]

4 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

 

One way to spend election day I suppose.

[Raven]

7 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

I often wonder what position we’d be in now if the UK had “shut the borders” in regards to flights in and out of the UK whilst it was known that covid was ripping through Wuhan and Spain/Italy etc. Still baffles me that at a time when we couldn’t travel 5 miles for anything non essential, flights were still coming in and out of the country with people that werent tested or told to isolate 

In the year of taking back control of "are boarders", imagine the PR opportunity if they'd actually been willing to do something.

[Raven]

7 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

 

Oooh! Sunburn on the soles of the feet, not good.

 

[Todd_is_God]

3 minutes ago, Raven said:

Oooh! Sunburn on the soles of the feet, not good.

 

"Independence is the only way to protect the soles of our feet from sunburn" Sturgeon, Nicola. May 2026.

[Todd_is_God]

Absolutely howling btw at anyone trying to defend the rationale behind firing those areas fortunate enough to be in Level 1 on Christmas Day, and able to pop out for a pint, into Level 4 on Boxing Day, and therefore not even able to pop out for a coffee, because 1 in 250,000 of the population have a virus.

Nevermind those who let that sink in, and will still cry "both votes SNP" in May because "wHo'D dO bEtTeR?"

Edited December 20, 2020 by Todd_is_God

[Cameron1875]

What can you say really, Joe Newell and Hibs couldn't be more unlucky.
Ah well, at least turn on the telly and see what Nicola has to say cause it can't be complete lockdown again when our cases seem to be lower than England. Oh wait...
Right well at least the Scottish Cup Final on Sunday will distract me for a bit. Ah baws the thought of a Hearts win makes me feel very uneasy.

Honestly if you don't laugh you'd cry. What an absolutely brutal time and hopefully folk that are understandably toiling get the help an support they need.

Edited December 20, 2020 by Cameron1875

[Bairnardo]

Collectively we just need to hope that cases stay as they are or drop off even despite Christmas day, and this bullshit only lasts the 3 weeks. I reserve the right to have a cranial supernova event though if we stay in tier 4 come late January even though cases are dropping.

[10menwent2mow]

I often wonder what position we’d be in now if the UK had “shut the borders” in regards to flights in and out of the UK whilst it was known that covid was ripping through Wuhan and Spain/Italy etc. Still baffles me that at a time when we couldn’t travel 5 miles for anything non essential, flights were still coming in and out of the country with people that werent tested or told to isolate 

Absolutely this. My abiding memory of the early days of the virus was when they were filling mass graves on Hart Island in New York and it was pretty much the global centre of the pandemic at that point. I quickly looked at the flight schedules one morning and 4 flights had landed at Heathrow by 11am from New York. That was just Heathrow, f**k knows how many landed at any other UK airports.

Hardly coincidental that New Zealand have been one of the best countries at dealing with this. Maybe if we'd, you know, treated our status as an island as some sort of benefit, we might have done a wee bit better. Quite ironic really that we are in the middle of something to make us isolationist in one sense, yet a percentage of the population couldn't wait to f**k off to Greece/Spain/Portugal at the first opportunity in the bloody summer.

[Zen Archer (Raconteur)]

1 hour ago, 'WellDel said:

The ridiculous 5 day sabbatical should never have been on the table in the first place

Anyone who bought into this, are the types that regularly sat in their local pub looking at this and believed it.

[Left Back]

1 hour ago, virginton said:

Yep, WFH would be a great option for most if you can waltz down to the pub (or at least out to the garden/park in summer), as well as having some external office space to use as well when needed/to mix things up. Living in your workspace indefinitely when it's raining sideways outside and dark apart from 11-3 at best provides none of the disconnect that is needed to function properly.

This is why they should either f**k off with these restrictions or ramp it up to full public holiday status instead and bin off all non-essential work that can't sit and wait for three weeks: which includes education.

Some people are quite happy to work from home.  I work in a team of 11 and the only person that really wants to get back to the office is the team leader.  He’s a clown that insisted on continuing to get on the tube every day to go into the central London office pre the March lockdown despite it being official company policy at the time to WFH.

I don’t have external office space and have been in a pub once since March and function perfectly well.

Your sweeping generalisations are totally off the mark.  I know it’s not for everyone but very few people I know have a desperate yearning to traipse back into an office every day.  I would add that most of my friends work in IT and have been using Skype and/or teams to work from home on a semi regular basis for years.

[Lurkst]

1 hour ago, 10menwent2mow said:

Absolutely this. My abiding memory of the early days of the virus was when they were filling mass graves on Hart Island in New York and it was pretty much the global centre of the pandemic at that point. I quickly looked at the flight schedules one morning and 4 flights had landed at Heathrow by 11am from New York. That was just Heathrow, f**k knows how many landed at any other UK airports.

Hardly coincidental that New Zealand have been one of the best countries at dealing with this. Maybe if we'd, you know, treated our status as an island as some sort of benefit, we might have done a wee bit better. Quite ironic really that we are in the middle of something to make us isolationist in one sense, yet a percentage of the population couldn't wait to f**k off to Greece/Spain/Portugal at the first opportunity in the bloody summer.

In fairness the New Zealanders were helped by being over 1000 miles from their nearest neighbour and not having the world's busiest international airport either.

 

[The Golden God]

The start of this lockdown never really made any sense to me, at least the first one was for the whole country and people gradually knew what the rules were and could come to terms with them. It should have been the same this time, fannying about with different tiers that seem to change every other day is just ridiculous. "You can't go to the pub, but you can go to a cafe till 6, you can go to the pub 20 miles away though, but only till 10, next week you can go to the pub here but you need to have a meal, also you can only go to any of these places if you're going with people you live with".

If we had went into the same lockdown as the first time round things would have been a lot better for everyone. 

[10menwent2mow]

In fairness the New Zealanders were helped by being over 1000 miles from their nearest neighbour and not having the world's busiest international airport either.
 

This is true but the ease with which people could come and go as they pleased internationally in the UK was absolutely ridiculous to start with.

[peasy23]

Vaccine roll out going smoothly in the US.

BBC News - Coronavirus: Trump's Covid vaccine chief admits delivery mistake
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55380288

[madwullie]

Interesting thread. Suggests in the comments that the higher transmissability in younger age groups would go some way to explaining why the data for schools down south recently has been so different to the data up here - and we can probably imply from this that this is why we're finally seeing action in the schools up here in terms of a more blended model. 

Seems pretty clear from the steepness of the graphs down south that despite the low number of confirmed infections (17) of this variant up here that if action isn't taken now, there's a real possibility our numbers will strtst to look pretty nasty pretty quickly. Also bear in mind that 17 infections would usually imply a higher number due to undetected infections.