Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[vikingTON]

25 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

said enough times, live life safely  like it's 2019 at home with almost zero foreign travel. most people would bite your hand off right now. after a year they would get pissed off that they cant go to Tenerife , but if Tenerife has 24/7 mask wearing , curfews and bars and clubs closed then they wouldn't want to go anyway

Yes they would because Tenerife has reliably good weather and the UK does not. Last year's lockdown coincided with one of the warmest and sunniest springs on record: when conditions are somewhat different in the months to come, people will be climbing the walls to get to the Med.

[Todd_is_God]

7 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

12 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

If they want to hit their target they will need to have completed around 25,000 yesterday.
Of course, our journalists will be aware of this and will highlight this if they fell well short...

They could do zero jags yesterday and still hit their target. You do realise how targets work ???

I'm not sure what the issue was with my post tbh.

[Todd_is_God]

12 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Currently? Agreed. I work in a very multicultural environment and I see fellow workers who have family in Mexico, USA, all over Europe and the Middle East who are struggling with not being allowed to go and see family on their terms.

There is always going to be a market for foreign travel and holidays though, that is not going to go away at the other end of this pandemic. My post was in agreement with the previous poster who said people will accept a year or two of foreign travel being pretty much off the table but will start to ask questions afterwards.

I'm not convinced the majority would tbh. You also have the added caveat of no foreign travel = no travel companies remaining for when we reach the arbitrary point we decide it's ok again.

This is zero covid nonsense that belongs in the bin.

Again, provided the UK have vaccinated the people they feel need protected there is no practical reason why people cannot freely travel to, and from, the UK.

Edited January 13, 2021 by Todd_is_God

[Gordon EF]

51 minutes ago, Paco said:

. I think we’re in danger of falling down a rabbit hole on here with outrage about something that’s not going to happen. 

 

I think we've dived head first into that rabbit hole and are now furiously burrowing our way to Australia.

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

4 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Currently? Agreed. I work in a very multicultural environment and I see fellow workers who have family in Mexico, USA, all over Europe and the Middle East who are struggling with not being allowed to go and see family on their terms.

There is always going to be a market for foreign travel and holidays though, that is not going to go away at the other end of this pandemic. My post was in agreement with the previous poster who said people will accept a year or two of foreign travel being pretty much off the table but will start to ask questions afterwards.

Foreign travel is hardly a luxury these days. It's very much part of modern day life for a huge number of people, and you can see that in the fact that when restrictions look there's a chance they could ease, one of the first things people do is book a holiday abroad or arrange to visit family and friends who live in other parts of the world. 

Aside from that, the travel industry (both inwards and outwards) is vital to the economy of the UK. It employs vast amounts of people, and indirectly keeps millions in employment servicing the industry. 

I agree that we have to look at a common kind of vaccine passport or whatever to enable people to travel safely, but I don't accept that foreign travel should be off the table any more than I accept that pubs and restaurants should remain closed because people gather there. 

 

[hk blues]

10 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

I'm not sure what the issue was with my post tbh.

I suppose they're reminding you it's a marathon rather than a sprint.  

[doulikefish]

23 minutes ago, Blootoon87 said:

My work had its first positive case today. Farewell everyone, it's been emotional.

Stay safe loon 

[MP_MFC]

I see that the Chinese vaccine has been only found to be 50.4% effective in Brazil where they've been including all infections as opposed to the headline 78%.

Those Chinese and there crazy numbers again.

[Todd_is_God]

11 minutes ago, hk blues said:

I suppose they're reminding you it's a marathon rather than a sprint.  

I still don't see the issue with questioning the SG if they appear to be falling behind a target they have already revised twice. I'm sure whatever excuse they give will be lapped up by the legion of simps on here though.

If they can't achieve 25k just now, then it's not realistic to be achieving 30/35k next week to make up the difference.

I'd also argue that, given the amount of disruption caused by the restrictions put in place for covid, it absolutely should be a sprint.

Edited January 13, 2021 by Todd_is_God

[hk blues]

1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said:

I still don't see the issue with questioning the SG if they appear to be falling behind a target they have already revised twice.

If they can't achieve 25k just now, then it's not realistic to be achieving 30/35k next week to make up the difference.

I'd also argue that, given the amount of disruption the restrictions put in place for covid, it absolutely is a sprint.

Neither do I but I suppose they were suggesting that the time to criticise someone for missing a target is when they've missed the target rather than before the deadline.  I'd prefer the heat to be turned up now but it does give an easy out using "it's early days" as an excuse.  

[Have some faith in Magic]

37 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

If they want to hit their target they will need to have completed around 25,000 yesterday.

Of course, our journalists will be aware of this and will highlight this if they fell well short...

But I saw someone in queue outside waiting to buy a cup of coffee.

 

[SoapMactavish]

Just to address the whole” lOnG cOvId iS a HoAx” on here.

There is categorically a post-covid syndrome of some sort, particularly in regard to people still having chest issues like breathlessness, chest pain etc a long way down the line from the actual acute infection. 
 

I am seeing on a daily basis significant numbers of patients attending with these symptoms 8,9 or even 10 months after getting infected intially. Some are bad enough to need admitted through ED. 
 

Call it long covid or whatever you want but it does exist and is not the same as post viral fatigue. 

[Blootoon87]

Stay safe loon 

Cheers, he hasn't been in since Friday and he's got a wee office to himself that I'm never in so I should be fine.

[Steven W]

58 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:

It will be more than yesterday's 12k but not by much. I'll go 15k.

Yep. Beginning to feel like SG's 'Cautious Approach' is being applied to vaccinations 

[Todd_is_God]

5 minutes ago, SoapMactavish said:

Just to address the whole” lOnG cOvId iS a HoAx” on here.

There is categorically a post-covid syndrome of some sort, particularly in regard to people still having chest issues like breathlessness, chest pain etc a long way down the line from the actual acute infection. 
 

I am seeing on a daily basis significant numbers of patients attending with these symptoms 8,9 or even 10 months after getting infected intially. Some are bad enough to need admitted through ED. 
 

Call it long covid or whatever you want but it does exist and is not the same as post viral fatigue. 

How would this compare to the ratio of people still suffering similar complications following being hospitalised with a severe bout of flu or, perhaps more significantly, pneumonia?

Would you expect that a vaccine which, at the very least prevents severe covid, to significantly reduce the number of people experiencing this?

[renton]

1 minute ago, Steven W said:

Yep. Beginning to feel like SG's 'Cautious Approach' is being applied to vaccinations 

What does that even mean?

[Paco]

I still don't see the issue with questioning the SG if they appear to be falling behind a target they have already revised twice. I'm sure whatever excuse they give will be lapped up by the legion of simps on here though.
If they can't achieve 25k just now, then it's not realistic to be achieving 30/35k next week to make up the difference.
I'd also argue that, given the amount of disruption caused by the restrictions put in place for covid, it absolutely should be a sprint.

They can and should achieve that next week as resources currently concentrated in care homes are opened up, and AZ lands with more and more GP practices.

Journalists should be questioning the inevitable ~15k numbers and extracting that sort of explanation from Nicola Sturgeon though, no doubt about it. Rather than just sitting glumly and asking the same questions about takeaway coffees or criminals walking in parks.

[MuckleMoo]

Just to address the whole” lOnG cOvId iS a HoAx” on here.
There is categorically a post-covid syndrome of some sort, particularly in regard to people still having chest issues like breathlessness, chest pain etc a long way down the line from the actual acute infection. 
 
I am seeing on a daily basis significant numbers of patients attending with these symptoms 8,9 or even 10 months after getting infected intially. Some are bad enough to need admitted through ED. 
 
Call it long covid or whatever you want but it does exist and is not the same as post viral fatigue. 

Claims for PIP/DLA are going to go through the roof!

[Academically Deficient]

Rumours abound that construction is going to be shut down. I think it's unlikely, just wondering if anyone has heard similar?

Translation: can I go home now please?

[MP_MFC]

Chief of AZ says that the vaccine looks to be fine with new variant and their data shows 8-12 weeks between doses appears to be the "sweet spot" for maximum efficacy.