Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Bigmouth Strikes Again]

1 hour ago, Ludo*1 said:

This is one of the worst posts I've ever read on this forum.

There's only one 'Guvnor' in Carnoustie, and it's not him.

Spoiler

 

Thank you.

[Left Back]

Just now, Todd_is_God said:

If there is a physical supply issue, then you can't force their hand as there isn't any product. 

If it's an agreement and they say "we're going to give you less as we need it more" then that's different.

Why is there a physical supply issue?  We keep being told there are enough vaccines already in the country to hit the initial 15m target.

The fact those vaccines aren’t actually ready to put into peoples arms is chronically poor planning and forecasting.

Scotgov by the figures posted above and the numbers of people that have been jagged also have a stockpile.  They should definitely be in peoples arms instead of in a fridge as they are ready to go.

[Todd_is_God]

6 minutes ago, madwullie said:

People demand vaccine supply figures and targets are released. 

Scot Gov release supply figures and targets 

UK govt demands document taken down

SNP Bad

We'll need a source for this. Until then it can be viewed as another excuse the simps unquestionably believe.

[Billy Jean King]

If there is a physical supply issue, then you can't force their hand as there isn't any product. 
If it's an agreement and they say "we're going to give you less as we need it more" then that's different.

We haven't been told which. All she said was the document was removed at the behest of the UKG as there were issues relating to the document being too transparent (exact phrase) over future vaccine supply data. I doubt 5he figures in the official SG document were plucked from mid air. There must have been UKG indications given. Clearly the UKG don't like such information being put into the public domain.

[Michael W]

42 minutes ago, philpy said:

Saw some daft bint who is meant to be self isolating, leave her house last night. And no, I didn't grass her up. It's up to the idiots if they take the risk of getting found out.

This pandemic never ceases to disappoint. 

[Glen Sannox]

9 minutes ago, madwullie said:

People demand vaccine supply figures and targets are released. 

Scot Gov release supply figures and targets 

UK govt demands document taken down

SNP Bad

One thing that is definitely SNP Bad, is the pitiful amount of vaccinations that have been carried out in Scotland.

[madwullie]

3 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

We'll need a source for this. Until then it can be viewed as another excuse the simps unquestionably believe.

You're a caricature mate. Love you and all that but ffs  

Edit: so in your world, what could be the other reason for them removing a document that has already been seen, downloaded, and reported on by loads of people? 

Edited January 14, 2021 by madwullie

[Caledonian1]

5 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

Worst journo question yet (and that's a low bar). Asking at a Covid press conference for a separate press conference for non Covid questions as he has non Covid related questions he can't ask at the Covid press conference. FFS !!!!

and then did the next Journalist ask exacly the same question again?  That's what usually happens

This crisis really has exposed how poor journalists in this country are....and they wonder why people are not buying papers or paying the TV licence fee. 

[Billy Jean King]

We'll need a source for this. Until then it can be viewed as another excuse the simps unquestionably believe.

FFS !!! What source would you prefer, the Sun, Express or Mail ???

[ayrmad]

I'm more interested in knowing which types are getting the jab rather than the numbers atm, if we're doing lots of the difficult ones 1st then the numbers will seriously ramp up once they've been jabbed, certainly been going round doors in some areas near me. 

[Steven W]

4 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

We'll need a source for this. Until then it can be viewed as another excuse the simps unquestionably believe.

NS touched on it there and now on BBC website. She should have told UKG to piss off

STV's Gordon Chree says the vaccine rollout plan published last night has been subsequently deleted.

Mr Chree says it does not appear to give any target date for all adults to be vaccinated by and what practical steps are being taken to avoid wastage of the vaccine.

The first minister says the vaccine plan has been temporarily taken off the Scottish government website as the UK government raised concerns about the level of information about supply of the vaccine that was included.

She explains the UK government has concerns about commercial confidentially and discussions are ongoing to address them.

[The Marly]

Of course life will never return to what it was like in 2019. Football crowds will of course return if it was a place bad for transmission of a virus like this it would also be a hot bed for flu, it's not.
What do you mean who would go if you might catch your death? Lots of people have sadly died in football stadia, usually because of a crush it doesn't put people off in the same way people make hundreds of risk based decisions every day. 
As for social distancing for life, there is no chance! It would be illegal to have sex with someone you don't live with so either your population falls off a cliff or inbreeding rockets. Not a problem in Fife but the rest of you might not be so pleased.

The population of Carnoustie falling off a cliff would probably prove quite popular just now.

[Todd_is_God]

Just now, madwullie said:

You're a caricature mate. Love you and all that but ffs  

Come on. We're talking about the same people yesterday defiantly believing that we are going to be able to dish out 400k vaccinations per week from Monday, now instantly believing that the SG have, in less than 24 hours, essentially walked back from that because the UKGov think it's "too transparent"

[Thereisalight..]

22 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

The document which was on the Scottish government site last night, but has now been removed (presumably to fix a couple of errors?) had the following:

1. Residents and care home workers, over 80s - 325k
2. Patient-facing health care workers, lab staff & social care staff - 230k
3. Over 75s - 190k
4. Over 70s, extremely vulnerable - 390k
5. Over 65s - 280k
6. Unpaid carers, those with underlying health conditions - 1.01m
7. Over 60s - 280k
8. Over 55s - 330k
9. Over 50s - 340k

That gives a total of 3.375m in their nine priority categories.

I take it that would mean it would need almost 7mill doses to have vaccinated these groups. Going to be a long old slog if only 16k are being done per day.

As an aside I don’t think we should be waiting for those in the 50-60 age group who are healthy to be vaccinated before easing restrictions 

[Todd_is_God]

1 minute ago, Thereisalight.. said:

As an aside I don’t think we should be waiting for those in the 50-60 age group who are healthy to be vaccinated before easing restrictions 

I don't think we will.

[Left Back]

3 minutes ago, ayrmad said:

I'm more interested in knowing which types are getting the jab rather than the numbers atm, if we're doing lots of the difficult ones 1st then the numbers will seriously ramp up once they've been jabbed, certainly been going round doors in some areas near me. 

Don’t stockpile until you get the difficult ones out the way.  Get the stuff out there as fast as possible.  If you get some over 60’s or 70’s done while you’re doing the 80’s and care homes in parallel you’re still increasing protection in the wider community.

the seemingly sequential nature of the roll-out to me is negligent from a public health perspective.

[Billy Jean King]

I'm more interested in knowing which types are getting the jab rather than the numbers atm, if we're doing lots of the difficult ones 1st then the numbers will seriously ramp up once they've been jabbed, certainly been going round doors in some areas near me. 

I think pretty much that is exactly scenario ie care homes, house bound, working NHS staff etc. Hence the insistence they are still on target. Not sure what part of it some folk can't grasp.

[The Marly]

I take it that would mean it would need almost 7mill doses to have vaccinated these groups. Going to be a long old slog if only 16k are being done per day.
As an aside I don’t think we should be waiting for those in the 50-60 age group who are healthy to be vaccinated before easing restrictions 

I'm between 50-60. I have no underlying health issues. My wife however is in the extremely vulnerable category. The last 10 months have been very stressful for me with the worry of taking the virus home to her. Once she gets vaccinated it will be a massive weight off my shoulders.
However I completely agree that some restrictions should be lifted prior to vaccinating healthy people in my age group.

[Todd_is_God]

1 minute ago, Billy Jean King said:

8 minutes ago, ayrmad said:

I'm more interested in knowing which types are getting the jab rather than the numbers atm, if we're doing lots of the difficult ones 1st then the numbers will seriously ramp up once they've been jabbed, certainly been going round doors in some areas near me. 

I think pretty much that is exactly scenario ie care homes, house bound, working NHS staff etc. Hence the insistence they are still on target. Not sure what part of it some folk can't grasp.

We have a large number in stock. Why can't we do both at the same time? There is no logical reason behind completing care homes first before moving on to the programme proper.

If we can do 400k per week from Monday, we should be doing more than 16k per day now.

 

[WhiteRoseKillie]

The virus would need to have a 99.9% fatality rate on the forum before you became the voice of authority on good posting.

Nerve. Touched.