Steven W Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I'm hoping there's more to it than meets the eye in thas rather (on the face of it) rather depressing graph? Anyone able to explain? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Steven W said: I'm hoping there's more to it than meets the eye in thas rather (on the face of it) rather depressing graph? Anyone able to explain? It covers a period of three days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 What is it that the Scottish Government is saying is happening that will cause us to go from 16k vaccinations a day to hundreds of thousands a day? Aren't the doses already good to go? What's going to change to cause this huge increase in numbers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Steven W said: I'm hoping there's more to it than meets the eye in thas rather (on the face of it) rather depressing graph? Anyone able to explain? I get the point you are making here, but if you are going to use a graph that covers just three days on here to make it, then i'll come back in a few pages once the simps have replied. Edited January 15, 2021 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekhibee88 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, MP_MFC said: 3 hours ago, Elixir said: How does it actually work in practice in Glasgow etc, i.e. surely you can have a drink in a park on a summer's day? Nope. I mean people do, but the polis can make you empty it and or fine you. Once I was drinking in Kelvingrove with a mate, we got stopped by Police. If its a group of girls probably wont get stopped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, Big Fifer said: What is it that the Scottish Government is saying is happening that will cause us to go from 16k vaccinations a day to hundreds of thousands a day? Aren't the doses already good to go? What's going to change to cause this huge increase in numbers? We need to get to around 57k per day to hit our target (assuming 7 days per week). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWL Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Steven W said: I'm hoping there's more to it than meets the eye in thas rather (on the face of it) rather depressing graph? Anyone able to explain? It's a three day snap shot......but I suspect you knew that. As an aside, my dad has just messaged me to say he and my mum are getting their jags on Sunday at GPs. They are fit, mid 70s in Helensburgh so must be moving down the tiers now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Steven W said: I'm hoping there's more to it than meets the eye in thas rather (on the face of it) rather depressing graph? Anyone able to explain? Have we not mostly focused on care homes and staff first which take more time to administer? We've done 80% of residents and 55% of care home staff. I can't remember the stats for down south but it was definitely less. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: I get the point you are making here, but if you are going to use a graph that covers just three days on here to make it, then i'll come back in a few pages once the simps have replied. Why don't you give us your hot take Todd then we can be certain what isn't causing it. Edited January 15, 2021 by madwullie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Have we not mostly focused on care homes and staff first which take more time to administer? We've done 80% of residents and 55% of care home staff. I can't remember the stats for down south but it was definitely less.Exactly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 31 minutes ago, Snafu said: @SkyNews · 20m The UK is still making its 'biggest mistake' of treating COVID like flu - when it should be tackled like SARS, says Professor @devisridhar , chair of Global Public Health. Follow live #coronavirus updates COVID live news - latest updates: UK still making 'biggest mistake' of treating coronavirus like... Live coronavirus updates as: UK bans all travel from South America and Portugal, and the delayed daily COVID deaths come in at 1,248. news.sky.com UK is making 'biggest mistake' of treating COVID like flu - when it should be tackled like SARS Professor Devi Sridhar,chair of Global Public Health, has had this to say on Twitter... Biggest mistake UK made (& continues to make) is seeing COVID like flu that will become seasonal & come back each winter rather than like SARS to push to eliminate. Aside from lives & NHS strain, economy & children are paying an unacceptably high cost for this approach. — Prof. Devi Sridhar (@devisridhar) January 13, 2021 Aye, we shut down half the UK's economy for flu every year, right enough. Can't believe I've never noticed that before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Billy Jean King said: 9 minutes ago, Honest Saints Fan said: Have we not mostly focused on care homes and staff first which take more time to administer? We've done 80% of residents and 55% of care home staff. I can't remember the stats for down south but it was definitely less. Exactly. I had a wee look and a couple days ago England were at something like 23%. They want to have all care home residents vaccinated by 24th January but most care home owners think that is ambitious due to the time it takes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Michael W said: Aye, we shut down half the UK's economy for flu every year, right enough. Can't believe I've never noticed that before. That's not what she's saying though. I don't agree with her, but her point is it isn't flu, but if we treat it as such (seasonal, inevitable) then we will end up taking measures each year to counter it, whereas if we get rid of it now that won't need to be the case. It ignores the fact, though, that vaccination should mean it isn't as severe or as prevalent and therefore strict measures won't be required. Edited January 15, 2021 by madwullie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 32 minutes ago, madwullie said: Why don't you give us your hot take Todd then we can be certain what isn't causing it. Chief Simp couldn't resist I see 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Is simp the new sheeple? Badge of honour imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, welshbairn said: Is simp the new sheeple? No 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Is simp the new sheeple? Badge of honour imo. I think its those that dont believe this is over as a public health crisis 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, madwullie said: That's not what she's saying though. I don't agree with her, but her point is it isn't flu, but if we treat it as such (seasonal, inevitable) then we will end up taking measures each year to counter it, whereas if we get rid of it now that won't need to be the case. It ignores the fact, though, that vaccination should mean it isn't as severe or as prevalent and therefore strict measures won't be required. It obviously isnt flu and I think there is a point to be made that all government pandemic planning was modelled on flu. I think we've moved beyond treating it like flu with our approach to vaccination whereby all adults in the UK are to be offered the vaccine and would assume that would be repeated should a modified version be necessary at a later date, accompanied by a massive publicity campaign to get maximise public uptake. Compare that to flu vaccination which is only offered for free to a subset of the population and the most you see is a reminder advert on the TV come flu season. Even with vaccination, due to the varying rates of effectiveness, the duration of immunity and whether it remains to be seen to what extent it blocks transmission, its simply not possible to eliminate this coronavirus any time soon. Theres no reason however why seasonal restrictions would be needed if a repeat vaccination programme is available. Edit to add the word "simp" is chronic patter and best left to edgelords like Paul Joseph Watson and others who need to make it clear they really don't care about not having a girlfriend. Edited January 15, 2021 by Aladdin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 30 minutes ago, madwullie said: That's not what she's saying though. I don't agree with her, but her point is it isn't flu, but if we treat it as such (seasonal, inevitable) then we will end up taking measures each year to counter it, whereas if we get rid of it now that won't need to be the case. It ignores the fact, though, that vaccination should mean it isn't as severe or as prevalent and therefore strict measures won't be required. "Zero Covid" idiot found. An annual vaccination delivered at the same time as the flu jag is more likely, and acceptable, than continuing to give the "zero covid" fantasist airtime. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Chief Simp couldn't resist I see Any word on whether we can trust the Scot govt on being asked to withdraw that document yet? Has it been verified by an acceptable source? ie Toby Young, the fat emperor? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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