Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[ICTChris]

I've seen this graph shared a few times on social media today.

[coprolite]

3 hours ago, mizfit said:

 

Reimposed on 14th Feb guaranteed.

 

So long as restaurants stay shut for Valentine’s Day that will do me

[ICTChris]

7 minutes ago, RiG said:

Some interesting math skills on display from the BBC here. That must be an error with the English figures?

The figure for England must be the number done that day whereas figures for rUK must be totals?

Northern Ireland is quietly doing very well on vaccine rollout.  I believe they've done almost all care homes.  Good work from the Bunfields, who will be keen to get back to normal for rioting season this summer.  

[Gaz]

3 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

The figure for England must be the number done that day whereas figures for rUK must be totals?

Northern Ireland is quietly doing very well on vaccine rollout.  I believe they've done almost all care homes.  Good work from the Bunfields, who will be keen to get back to normal for rioting season this summer.  

Free vaccines with cheddar cheese and pineapple on a stick IMO

[TheScarf]

3 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

The figure for England must be the number done that day whereas figures for rUK must be totals?

Northern Ireland is quietly doing very well on vaccine rollout.  I believe they've done almost all care homes.  Good work from the Bunfields, who will be keen to get back to normal for rioting season this summer.  

Great work from the Nationalists IMO. Michelle O'Neil has been pretty vocal about ramping up the vaccines.

[Jacksgranda]

NI plan - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55157970   Seems to be on target(ish).

Going by that my wife and I should get ours next month.

[Jacksgranda]

4 hours ago, hk blues said:

They do if they don't have all the materials they need to do more than one at a time - or the labour.  Or the experience of building many houses at once.

^^^^ "Spent all the money buying the land" type post

[vikingTON]

Here was me thinking that Scotland's piss-poor performance was all down to our noble prioritisation of care homes. Yet the pallet burners have put them at the top of their list as well and seem to have a 50% higher rate of vaccination. 

[invergowrie arab]

1 minute ago, virginton said:

Here was me thinking that Scotland's piss-poor performance was all down to our noble prioritisation of care homes. Yet the pallet burners have put them at the top of their list as well and seem to have a 50% higher rate of vaccination. 

Citizen compliance being one of the many benefits of being governed by armed militia IMO 

[Paco]

265k now vaccinated. Assuming this is upto 8:30am this morning it’s much lower than I was hoping for unfortunately, about 20k done on both Saturday and Sunday. Improvement but not enough.

Care homes ‘almost done’. I see no reason for excuses not to be 30-40k a day this week, and we’re going to need to be to get anywhere near the targets.

[Billy Jean King]

Local GP practice not vaccinating daily. They have allocated 2 days in the next 10 for vaccination and say they have capacity in those two days to apply every dose they have been provided with. If most surgeries operate in a similar manner then daily updates are going to prove pretty pointless as an indicator of where we are in this roll out.

NS adamant again we remain firmly on course to meet their targets.

[effeffsee_the2nd]

26 minutes ago, virginton said:

Depends on which part of South America you're talking about. If 'summer' is actually the wet season and winter dry then there's extra humidity for a start, and quite possibly more time spent indoors.

Other than southern Chile and the Falklands you're not going to find a parallel to a rock in the middle of an ocean that is drenched in cloud and rain for months on end. 

I wish people would stop thinking that it's the weather that directly drives infections re- seasonality.  it's about how much time you spend indoors where the virus does the bulk of it's spreading.   People in roasting hot countries don't all head to the park with a carry out when it's 35 degrees for the 50th day in a row.  Only folk from cold damp cloudy places like here do that, where hot weather is the norm they minimise their time in the sun. and there's also things like monsoons like you mention .

There's also cultural differences too, in some places it's quite rare to be invited into another persons home whereas in others it's the number one means of socialising , as well as differences in how people work across different countries. for instance in many countries in latin America Africa or the Caribbean  there is no such thing as furlough or even a dole for the unemployed. simply shutting everything down and telling the staff to stay in their homes isn't an option for some

[Paco]

Care homes are ‘almost done’ which will hopefully see resources opened up but that won’t help if GPs don’t have the vaccine!

In fact, there are an estimated 555k in Groups 1 & 2, expected to be done by the ‘start of February’. To me that’s Monday 1st Feb. We’ll need to see about 20k a day to get there. So that one is surely very doable.

The concerning one is Groups 3, 4 & 5. 880k in there, I think, to be done by the end of Feb. Even if we started today it’s 21k per day, in addition to the 20k or so a day needed to hit the first target.

It needs to rise and it needs to rise pretty quickly. In fairness to the SG their plans show an exponential growth in numbers starting next Monday. It’ll be needed!

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

3 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

I wish people would stop thinking that it's the weather that directly drives infections re- seasonality.  it's about how much time you spend indoors where the virus does the bulk of it's spreading.   People in roasting hot countries don't all head to the park with a carry out when it's 35 degrees for the 50th day in a row.  Only folk from cold damp cloudy places like here do that, where hot weather is the norm they minimise their time in the sun. and there's also things like monsoons like you mention .

There's also cultural differences too, in some places it's quite rare to be invited into another persons home whereas in others it's the number one means of socialising , as well as differences in how people work across different countries. for instance in many countries in latin America Africa or the Caribbean  there is no such thing as furlough or even a dole for the unemployed. simply shutting everything down and telling the staff to stay in their homes isn't an option for some

Also see quite a lot of multi generational family homes in Med and Asian households. 

[Marshmallo]

I am completely ignorant presumably but I don't understand 1) how a care home can't be vaccinated in a single day and 2) how care homes can be slower to vaccinate than herding the cats of over 80s who live in the community into a centralised point at specific individual appointments. Someone explain this to me please.

[effeffsee_the2nd]

In other news the cases over the last 3 days do seem to be coming down, it's usually less over the weekend but even satrudays wasn't horrific .  if theres no big jump up tomorrow it would be nice to think we've turned a corner

[AyrExile]

1 hour ago, realmadrid said:

But its the summer in South America and most nations there now have another spike, which in many cases is way higher than their first in what was their winter. 

What in their summer weather would have the same effect as our winter?

Having an outdated healthcare system that barely copes with seasonal issues nevermind having covid lumped on top 

[madwullie]

7 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:

I am completely ignorant presumably but I don't understand 1) how a care home can't be vaccinated in a single day and 2) how care homes can be slower to vaccinate than herding the cats of over 80s who live in the community into a centralised point at specific individual appointments. Someone explain this to me please.

No idea about 1, but I presume with 2, ordering say 500 people to turn up to a sports centre and jagging them all day will be quicker than going round say (numbers out my arse here) 100 separate care homes and jagging 50 residents in each, what with the travel etc required. Depends on the number of vaccinators I suppose, but it'll always be quicker getting loads of people to come to you, than individually going to a smaller number of people. 

Guaranteed someone will be on in a second to explain this better than I have. 

Edited January 18, 2021 by madwullie

[Marshmallo]

3 minutes ago, madwullie said:

No idea about 1, but I presume with 2, ordering say 500 people to turn up to a sports centre and jagging them all day will be quicker than going round say (numbers out my arse here) 100 separate care homes and jagging 50 residents in each, what with the travel etc required. Depends on the number of vaccinators I suppose, but it'll always be quicker getting loads of people to come to you, than individually going to a smaller number of people. 

Guaranteed someone will be on in a second to explain this better than I have. 

That makes sense to an extent - they come to you rather than the logistics of going to them in their care home.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

2 minutes ago, madwullie said:

No idea about 1, but I presume with 2, ordering say 500 people to turn up to a sports centre and jagging them all day will be quicker than going round say (numbers out my arse here) 100 separate care homes and jagging 50 residents in each, what with the travel etc required. Depends on the number of vaccinators I suppose, but it'll always be quicker getting loads of people to come to you, than individually going to a smaller number of people. 

Guaranteed someone will be on in a second to explain this better than I have. 

So say you have 20 care homes and 10 vaccination staff, 50-70 residents to be jagged in each, give each staff member one for the morning and one for the afternoon. Would be the same as having 10 staff in a vaccination centre doing morning and afternoon shift. Not really getting the perception of logistical issues around this. Slightly more inconvenient but not really a staggering undertaking surely?