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15 minutes ago, Gaz said:

Are there actually any countries that are entirely self-sufficient, and could (theoretically) close their borders and cut off all contact with the outside world for an indefinite period of time?

China, as long as they can sell stuff.

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37 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

I'm pretty sure D&G moved down a tier as Stranraer had fans back for one game 

A strange reason imo.

33 minutes ago, AngusTheBull said:

There's been discussions on opening barbers early/mid-March in Wales alongside some other non-essential shops. Can't see this impacting NS's roadmap at all though, especially given nothing has been confirmed.

I was holding off doing the #2 all over until yesterday's announcement, may have to take the plunge this week. 

Seeing the English timeframe yesterday, I finally bit the bullet and gave myself a #8 all over to eradicate the crazy professor look (had clippers already, but had been feart of using them as I do occasionally venture outside the house, and yesterday was too warm for a hat). 

Surprisingly happy with the result, although it means I'll have to add 'barber' to my CV now, which might upset the layout.

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Just now, Todd_is_God said:

"Deprive me of things that make life worth living for longer so I can amuse myself at others being annoyed at this" is a very odd outlook tbh.

As what I want to happen has no influence on any decisions to potentially deprive me of things I enjoy, seeing people go full Alan Brazil because they can get a pint two weeks later than those in England will provide some light relief. 

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Just realised my vaccine appointment clashes with Nicola.

Hopefully by the time I get home this thread will be full of excitement after the Scottish Government decides to just go mental and open everything up by the end of the April...

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2 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Why are you so triggered by this.

Of course people want normality. And now, with the vaccine in our arsenal, it should be the only stated and accepted end goal.

You should save your anger and direct it at NS if she doesn't say that is what she is aiming for IMO.

I'm angry because the Government of this country has seen a global pandemic as an opportunity for profit. 

I'm angry because the Prime Minister was responsible for tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths because one of his scriptwriters had come uo with a weak gag he wanted to see on the Mail front page. 

I'm angry because the Health Secretary has been found guilty in the high court of acting unlawfully, and says he won't resign. And the media shrug thir shoulders and move on to what Harry 'n' Megan are up to.

I'm angry because a massive court decision has handed some rights to Uber drivers (and by extension a shitload of other "gig economy" workers) and not one mainstream outlet  has attempted to open a debate about what this is going to mean for employment and the future of the economy. Mainly, I think, because the concept of workers getting some rights which should be undeniable may mean the companies relying on them can no longer make profits, therefore rendering them ex-workers is seen as a bit complex. 

I'm angry because the whole system is crashing about our ears, and the Government has no clue, idea or desire to anything about it. 

I'm angry because there's more concern about haircuts, football and schools than there is about the collapse of our entire society.

And finally, I'm angry because the majority of posters on here are more concerned with point-scoring than they are about the real-life catastrophe looming over the horizon. 

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26 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

In fairness, staggering levels of incompetence have a fair bit to do with it as well. You realise they've managed to fúck the economy as well, don't you?

At least HS2 and the trident replacement haven't been cancelled. I was worried for a bit, there. 

They thought that it would all blow over and kept the economy going until our hospitals were nearly overwhelmed.

I feel that rather than incompetence it was designed. There was a bit of incompetence but to say that mass gatherings were fine, scientific advisers said so was probably down to them being controlled. The tories also shat it when London was effected. Its their economic base. They're now doing the same again, overpromising and getting hopes up. This could backfire and lead to busineses planning again only to be told no later on. But who cares, money has changed hands. Short term stupid thinking.

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1 minute ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

I'm angry because the Government of this country has seen a global pandemic as an opportunity for profit. 

I'm angry because the Prime Minister was responsible for tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths because one of his scriptwriters had come uo with a weak gag he wanted to see on the Mail front page. 

I'm angry because the Health Secretary has been found guilty in the high court of acting unlawfully, and says he won't resign. And the media shrug thir shoulders and move on to what Harry 'n' Megan are up to.

I'm angry because a massive court decision has handed some rights to Uber drivers (and by extension a shitload of other "gig economy" workers) and not one mainstream outlet  has attempted to open a debate about what this is going to mean for employment and the future of the economy. Mainly, I think, because the concept of workers getting some rights which should be undeniable may mean the companies relying on them can no longer make profits, therefore rendering them ex-workers is seen as a bit complex. 

I'm angry because the whole system is crashing about our ears, and the Government has no clue, idea or desire to anything about it. 

I'm angry because there's more concern about haircuts, football and schools than there is about the collapse of our entire society.

And finally, I'm angry because the majority of posters on here are more concerned with point-scoring than they are about the real-life catastrophe looming over the horizon. 

At least killie are doing well

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9 minutes ago, superbigal said:

I had to highlight  this mate.  Your colleagues at HMP Kilmarnock did a fine job in keeping it down to a few hundred cases.

I hate to come over all socialist on you, but Bowhouse is a profit centre operated by Serco. Landing staff? Colleagues. Decision-making managers? Not so much. We've seen the same happen down here. 

We've had some sites in E&W which have seen three figure numbers, but considering the one thing any virus does when it gets behind a Prison wall is ricochet around all the residents and workers, the Prison Service has somehow done very well throughout this whole mess. 

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2 hours ago, Day of the Lords said:

Ad Lib's stuff over the last few days is absolute top notch wummery. Had a few posters seething without really overplaying his hand and making it too obvious. 

going to have to agree with this. Specially re not overplaying. The whole thing has confused me immensely:lol: Specially considering I instigated the whole thing by asking him about the legal opinion on mandatory vaccines!

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I'm angry because the Government of this country has seen a global pandemic as an opportunity for profit. 
I'm angry because the Prime Minister was responsible for tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths because one of his scriptwriters had come uo with a weak gag he wanted to see on the Mail front page. 
I'm angry because the Health Secretary has been found guilty in the high court of acting unlawfully, and says he won't resign. And the media shrug thir shoulders and move on to what Harry 'n' Megan are up to.
I'm angry because a massive court decision has handed some rights to Uber drivers (and by extension a shitload of other "gig economy" workers) and not one mainstream outlet  has attempted to open a debate about what this is going to mean for employment and the future of the economy. Mainly, I think, because the concept of workers getting some rights which should be undeniable may mean the companies relying on them can no longer make profits, therefore rendering them ex-workers is seen as a bit complex. 
I'm angry because the whole system is crashing about our ears, and the Government has no clue, idea or desire to anything about it. 
I'm angry because there's more concern about haircuts, football and schools than there is about the collapse of our entire society.
And finally, I'm angry because the majority of posters on here are more concerned with point-scoring than they are about the real-life catastrophe looming over the horizon. 
Wasn't clear from your post. Are you angry about something?
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Pains me to say this but fair play to the Torys.  They’ve gained a fair few new voters from this thread alone all because they’ve claimed you might get a pint sometime this year.  They certainly know how to con the electorate, that’s for sure. I guess it’s irrelevant that they’re corrupt b*****ds with a history of just claiming any old shite during this pandemic. 

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On 20/02/2021 at 18:53, Wile E Coyote said:

Buckingham Palace trying to justify Charles visit by saying its a private hospital.  Charles made a round trip of 90 miles to visit the hospital. They are basically saying if you have money or a Royal the rules don't apply to you.

Add in the fact that Charles and others came from London to Balmoral at the start of the first lockdown despite it being against the rules its a big f**k the rest of you, we will do what we like from the Royals

You should have added that his son and daughter-in-law at the beginning of last December took a train (at taxpayers expense) and travelled from London to Edinburgh against the advice of the SG then travelled to Wales against the advice of the Welsh Government. 

On 20/02/2021 at 19:00, Sergeant Wilson said:

@Wee Willie and @Carnoustie Young Guvnorwill have spontaneously combusted.

I'm still here so I didnae catch fire.

I take it you accept that Charlie boy can flaunt the rules whenever he wants?

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18 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said:

A strange reason imo.

Seeing the English timeframe yesterday, I finally bit the bullet and gave myself a #8 all over to eradicate the crazy professor look (had clippers already, but had been feart of using them as I do occasionally venture outside the house, and yesterday was too warm for a hat). 

Surprisingly happy with the result, although it means I'll have to add 'barber' to my CV now, which might upset the layout.

aye, you're not called Hedgecutter for nothing........

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3 hours ago, mizfit said:

1st June - stadiums and sports arena to allow in a limited number (let’s say 300 as that was the pilot and to be safe.)

Allowing 300 crowds at grounds like Pittodrie is the most pointless exercise imaginable, you'd be as well off playing the match on FIFA given how low the chances of transmission are.

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