Burnieman Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 That's all well and good about the vaccine but have they factored in the new Govan variant following the weekend's antics?Depending on what side of the fence you sit on, it's said to be between 1 and 55 times more deadly than the current variants. It's also resistant to the vaccines - scientists say that rather than providing immunity, the vaccines will instead guide the virus straight towards the respiratory system. I believe it is also highly resistant to soap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gaz said: They were saying yesterday how the reopening of schools was most likely going to lead to a huge surge in the infection rate and probable changes to the route out of lockdown. Cue BJ (or some lackey) standing at a podium in May telling folk that the 21st June plan was out the window but it was worth it to get some normality for the kiddies. Tbf he says he doesnt anticipate a change to the speed of the end of restrictions, as the 5 week window is needed. So not exactly saying it will slow down, just that it wont go any faster. Tbh i can live with the 21st of june as the end to everything if it happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Tbf he says he doesnt anticipate a change to the speed of the end of restrictions, as the 5 week window is needed. So not exactly saying it will slow down, just that it wont go any faster. Tbh i can live with the 21st of june as the end to everything if it happens. A surge in infections among the young and still to be vaccinated as restrictions are eased is not really a bad thing. Hospitalisations from them will be minimal, and it'll be a great demonstration of the level of risk that Covid will be carrying come the end of the vaccination roll out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Jumping back in here having not trawled through the last few weeks of this thread, but has anyone who has had the virus on here also had a vaccination?If so, how did it go?I received my first dose last Monday (the AZ one) and had a hellish reaction to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 I may have imagined reading this, and of course I'm the furthest from an expert on the matter (or on here) as you'l probably find, but did I read that the virus has or produces a protein that the vaccines target? And the protein is the one constant that doesn't change so of course the vaccines are going to get all the variants to fuck? As in they target the 'epicentre' of the virus makeup, so a little variance in the virus won't matter? I'm probably talking utter shite, and not for the first time amirite guys? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Jeff Venom said: Jumping back in here having not trawled through the last few weeks of this thread, but has anyone who has had the virus on here also had a vaccination? If so, how did it go? I received my first dose last Monday (the AZ one) and had a hellish reaction to it. Not me, but my mother in law took COVID and then got her first dose of Pfizer three weeks later. She's now had her second dose too. Felt a wee bit sore after the first one but no side effects at all from the second. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Jumping back in here having not trawled through the last few weeks of this thread, but has anyone who has had the virus on here also had a vaccination?If so, how did it go?I received my first dose last Monday (the AZ one) and had a hellish reaction to it. Anecdotally everyone I know who has had the AZ one has reported feeling shite during the first 48 hours ranging from chills, pains, nausea to absolute fatigue. This is across an age range from 29 to 86 and about 5 folk (not including those on here) .The Pfizer one has produced a few sore arms around the injection site but nothing more and nothing longer than 24 hours. This is from an age range of 32 to 63 and only 3 folk (not including here). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Whitty also absolutely roasting the zero covid lobby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Steven W said: Wracking my brains just now - allowing non-contact, outdoor sport for all u18s, will allow exactly what sports to go ahead? Tennis, golf, fishing, horse riding all OK as things stand. I'm sure there must be others, but can't think. Has tennis ever not been allowed? I have courts out the back of mine and they are in constant use. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Donathan said: Whitty also absolutely roasting the zero covid lobby Standard from a guy who's a physician and epidemiologist and not a dentist or whatever the fuck Sridhar is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Just now, gav-ffc said: Has tennis ever not been allowed? I have courts out the back of mine and they are in constant use. In this particular lockdown tennis, golf, fishing and horse riding have been allowed AFAIK What confuses me is, I can't see what today's looseining of restrictions (specfically u18s allowed to do non-contact outdoor sports) actually changes. Yes it'll allow non-contact football / rugby training, but as far as i know, both of these are contact sports. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EdinburghPar1975 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 One of the things i heard at the weekend which was interesting was a Premier League manager (might have been Chris Wilder) saying that although they're able to train and play the biggest loss (other than the fans) that he feels has impacted this season is that the players are not allowed to do any socialising/ team bonding and as a result they're not as much of a 'team' this year and more of a group of players that turn up separately, train differently and play games when needed. Could be an excuse but some teams do use the team bond/ all in this together sort of driver to help them compete if they're not quite at the same level technically and i wonder if this is the reason some teams seem to have more dramatic ups and downs than normal throughout the season? Hopefully things will be back to normal for the new season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 Whitty keen on remaining on the current lockdown relaxation schedule 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 (edited) Zero Covid is, of course, admirable but it's wholly unrealistic now. Stable door, horse bolted etc. Maybe a year ago it could have been possible but that's gone now and it's just not realistic anymore. Which seems to be what Whitty is saying. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2021/mar/09/uk-covid-live-news-coronavirus-nhs-staff-pay-rise-vaccine-latest-updates?page=with:block-60475b608f08168521f606e8#block-60475b608f08168521f606e8 Edited March 9, 2021 by RiG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 One of the things i heard at the weekend which was interesting was a Premier League manager (might have been Chris Wilder) saying that although they're able to train and play the biggest loss (other than the fans) that he feels has impacted this season is that the players are not allowed to do any socialising/ team bonding and as a result they're not as much of a 'team' this year and more of a group of players that turn up separately, train differently and play games when needed. Could be an excuse but some teams do use the team bond/ all in this together sort of driver to help them compete if they're not quite at the same level technically and i wonder if this is the reason some teams seem to have more dramatic ups and downs than normal throughout the season? Hopefully things will be back to normal for the new season. Possibly.Celtic got a real boost by going drinking together in Dubai, and it led to a big uptick in their performances.Oh, wait... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, EdinburghPar1975 said: One of the things i heard at the weekend which was interesting was a Premier League manager (might have been Chris Wilder) saying that although they're able to train and play the biggest loss (other than the fans) that he feels has impacted this season is that the players are not allowed to do any socialising/ team bonding and as a result they're not as much of a 'team' this year and more of a group of players that turn up separately, train differently and play games when needed. Could be an excuse but some teams do use the team bond/ all in this together sort of driver to help them compete if they're not quite at the same level technically and i wonder if this is the reason some teams seem to have more dramatic ups and downs than normal throughout the season? Hopefully things will be back to normal for the new season. That's definitely the reason why Morton are stinking the place out, and not because our ginger tit manager spent the summer hoarding every non-goalscoring sand-dancer in Scottish football. Best to null and void the league then until teams can bevvy again. Chris Wilder meanwhile should be looking at the likes of their flapping mess of a goalkeeper and Rhian Brewster that they spent £50 million of real, actual money on this summer, as the main reasons why they're getting relegated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, RiG said: Zero Covid is, of course, admirable but it's wholly unrealistic now. Stable door, horse bolted etc. Maybe a year ago it could have been possible but that's gone now and it's just not realistic anymore. Which seems to be what Whitty is saying. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2021/mar/09/uk-covid-live-news-coronavirus-nhs-staff-pay-rise-vaccine-latest-updates?page=with:block-60475b608f08168521f606e8#block-60475b608f08168521f606e8 Some of the questions there are terrible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Anecdotally everyone I know who has had the AZ one has reported feeling shite during the first 48 hours ranging from chills, pains, nausea to absolute fatigue. This is across an age range from 29 to 86 and about 5 folk (not including those on here) .The Pfizer one has produced a few sore arms around the injection site but nothing more and nothing longer than 24 hours. This is from an age range of 32 to 63 and only 3 folk (not including here).Yep, anecdotally that's what I'd heard too.I had all of those happen at some point during the 48 hours but the peak was from 12-18 hours post-vaccine: weakness, uncontrollable shivering, awful vomiting, fever, barely energy to get across my bathroom floor. I'm not even sure why I got a vaccine because I'm not in the current age, vulnerability, or occupation bracket (in England). Suppose reactions are going to happen for people, I was just really surprised at how severe mine felt compared to what I'd heard and read. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, ICTChris said: The replies saying "cAlL it NeW zEaLaNd" are staggering. Do they know what NZ's strategy is. That being vaccinate > bin restrictions > move on. The UK is following the NZ model. We just need tighter restrictions whilst we roll out the vaccine as we currently have much higher prevelance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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