Gaz Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 11 hours ago, ayrmad said: Jog on fanny. Yes, it's *definitely* me that's come across as an absolute weapon here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Dad (age 75) had the AZ one at the end of February. No issues. Word of warning about anecdotal linkages. At uni one lecturer told me that he could make a graph - which he did - showing the rise of HIV in the UK and the rise of colour TV ownership. For about 10 years these graphs went in the same direction. Now clearly there is no linkage between the two things, so beware looking at graphs and saying that X must lead to Y because there is a similar trend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ICTChris Posted March 15, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Dad (age 75) had the AZ one at the end of February. No issues. Word of warning about anecdotal linkages. At uni one lecturer told me that he could make a graph - which he did - showing the rise of HIV in the UK and the rise of colour TV ownership. For about 10 years these graphs went in the same direction. Now clearly there is no linkage between the two things, so beware looking at graphs and saying that X must lead to Y because there is a similar trend. 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, TheScarf said: fucking trenches! Is this another one of DA Baracus's ideas? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Has anyone had the AZ vaccine lately? Does anyone think we’ll cancel it over here? I’m due to get it today but feeling a bit nervous. Mrs Fifer had it on Saturday. Shes got a bit of a sore arm, but apart from that shes fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 25 minutes ago, Gaz said: Yes, it's *definitely* me that's come across as an absolute weapon here. Well it wasn't me, you don't get a free hit because you misread more than one post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 I realise it makes me sound like a triumphanist Brexiteer but the approach of the EU and national governments within the EU to the vaccination programme has been absolutely shocking. They are well behind where they could and should be and seem to be dealing with this by demonising one of the best vaccines against this disease. Truly remarkable. If this was being done by Trump or Bolsarano or a government like that you can only imagine the reams of spicy hot takes on social media and in the press about the stupidity of populism etc. Sadly, it's the countries fetishised as grown up and normal that are doing it. What a farce. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Has anyone had the AZ vaccine lately? Does anyone think we’ll cancel it over here? I’m due to get it today but feeling a bit nervous. I had it at the end of February, and I also had a CVA (stroke) eighteen months ago. I'm not over concerned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Dont cancel it mate. In saying that, what is it you're worried about? Quite a few users on here had it. I got Pfizer but would happily have injected the AZ one into my eye if that's what was offered. Thanks for the reminder, Wullie - I've got my lovely, straight into the eyeball, RVO injection on Friday. There are more pleasant ways to pass the time.[emoji30] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, ICTChris said: I realise it makes me sound like a triumphanist Brexiteer but the approach of the EU and national governments within the EU to the vaccination programme has been absolutely shocking. They are well behind where they could and should be and seem to be dealing with this by demonising one of the best vaccines against this disease. Truly remarkable. If this was being done by Trump or Bolsarano or a government like that you can only imagine the reams of spicy hot takes on social media and in the press about the stupidity of populism etc. Sadly, it's the countries fetishised as grown up and normal that are doing it. What a farce. yep 100%, they've made a rip roaring c**t of it yet they have escaped the scathing criticism that would be rightly directed at a populist government. I think it's because no one in the media - traditional & social- wants to be labelled as a tory triumphalist brexiteer, unless of course they already are one I agree with the radio presenter who described this as the "footballification" of politics and subsequently everything that's derived from it, obviously there have always been people who support the same party every time no matter what, but there didn't seem to be this blind support for everything and all things a party, or entity does including refusal to acknowledge flaws. Remember old stories of some old firm fans refusing to by ANY clothing made by the "other" sides' kit manufacturer ? this is where some of us are at now with politics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 yep 100%, they've made a rip roaring c**t of it yet they have escaped the scathing criticism that would be rightly directed at a populist government. I think it's because no one in the media - traditional & social- wants to be labelled as a tory triumphalist brexiteer, unless of course they already are one I agree with the radio presenter who described this as the "footballification" of politics and subsequently everything that's derived from it, obviously there have always been people who support the same party every time no matter what, but there didn't seem to be this blind support for everything and all things a party, or entity does including refusal to acknowledge flaws. Remember old stories of some old firm fans refusing to by ANY clothing made by the "other" sides' kit manufacturer ? this is where some of us are at now with politicsQuite agree with the "my team, right or wrong" attitude towards politics both on here and in real life. O'Brien nailed it with the football analogy, imho. It's childish, and leads people to entrenched positions from which movement is difficult if not impossible, no matter how much evidence is presented. Just look at the folk still presenting Brexit as a good thing. Folk who aren't insulated from its effects, I mean. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Burnieman said: WaffenThinMint, there's blast from the past. Whatever happened to him. Due for parole around 2051, I reckon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: Quite agree with the "my team, right or wrong" attitude towards politics both on here and in real life. O'Brien nailed it with the football analogy, imho. It's childish, and leads people to entrenched positions from which movement is difficult if not impossible, no matter how much evidence is presented. Just look at the folk still presenting Brexit as a good thing. Folk who aren't insulated from its effects, I mean. Is this the James O'Brien who less than a month ago had a meltdown at a Corbyn supporter who phoned in expressing their doubts about Starmer? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: I realise it makes me sound like a triumphanist Brexiteer but the approach of the EU and national governments within the EU to the vaccination programme has been absolutely shocking. They are well behind where they could and should be and seem to be dealing with this by demonising one of the best vaccines against this disease. Truly remarkable. If this was being done by Trump or Bolsarano or a government like that you can only imagine the reams of spicy hot takes on social media and in the press about the stupidity of populism etc. Sadly, it's the countries fetishised as grown up and normal that are doing it. What a farce. The worst is that I don't think the likes of Macron and Von der Leyen realise the damage that they have done here. You can't blame them for being upset at the delays which are AZ's responsibility, but to then deflect the blame by trashing the vaccine was never going to end well. They have caused a huge problem from which they may never recover. I don't have much time for politicians as most of them are opportunists and will say anything, but this isn't about whether their idea works over their opponent's - it's a question of scientific fact. People are entitled to take this at face value in the absence of the usual spin. As a result, these words have been highly damaging - to bring people back round they essentially have to say that they were wrong, which they won't do. It's also harder to persuade people of something when you change your own view and have already told them something else. It should have been abundantly clear from the likes of Trump that words matter, but they seem to have overlooked this and thought it wouldn't happen to them. It's arrogance. Edited March 15, 2021 by Michael W 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, Michael W said: The worst is that I don't think the likes of Macron and Von der Leyen realise the damage that they have done here. You can't blame them for being upset at the delays which are AZ's responsibility, but to then deflect the blame by trashing the vaccine was never going to end well. They have caused a huge problem from which they may never recover. I don't have much time for politicians as most of them are opportunists and will say anything, but this isn't about whether their idea works over their opponent's - it's a question of scientific fact. People are entitled to take this at face value in the absence of the usual spin. As a result, these words have been highly damaging - to bring people back round they essentially have to say that they were wrong, which they won't do. It's also harder to persuade people of something when you change your own view and have already told them something else. It should have been abundantly clear from the likes of Trump that words matter, but they seem to have overlooked this and thought it wouldn't happen to them. It's arrogance. They've killed a 2nd vote stone dead, wouldn't even be close if a 2nd referendum were to be called. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, ayrmad said: They've killed a 2nd vote stone dead, wouldn't even be close if a 2nd referendum were to be called. They'll be gutted about that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Anyone know what the hospital admissions are like at the moment? Seems to be a smaller decrease in totals each day than previously was happening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 456 cases (4.7 percent), 447 in hospital (-14) and 40 in ICU (-). Always concerning to see the percentage positive rise, however that's pretty standard for a Monday's figures. Was 5% last week, 4.5% the week before and 6.6% the week before that. Good to see hospital numbers continuing to drop, and I suspect they'll drop a wee bit more dramatically too if the usual trends are continuing. 400k vaccinations should be done this week. Smashing news. Edited March 15, 2021 by Jan Vojáček 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just received second dose at Ninewells. Place was going like an absolute fair 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deegee Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 So the 5th April is the next key date for things to open, according to NS just now. Followed by next landmark date at “end of April”. I am guessing it’ll be barbers and garden centres open in just over 2 weeks with pubs open outdoors at end of April. Maybe we’ll be allowed to enter some shops and takeaway places already open, rather than be served outside via a plastic hatch at the front door in early April too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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