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9 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

But that's consistent with the Government messaging throughout.

"Anyone can get it" and the rather odd SG adverts a month or so ago with absolute lard buckets being wheeled out to show that it can affect young people too.

I don't know whether this is the brainchild of a massively risk averse government, or a way of trying to take the focus off the fact they have spent a year terrifying people by massively overstating the relevant risk, hoping that by the time a year has gone by the vaccines will have reduced covid-19 to a minor illness at worst, and people won't realise.

Personal highlight was Scot Gov and some news outlets parading obsese 40 somethings getting oxygen as the prime example of "anyone can get it" and need hospital treatment.

Even now, it shouldn't be a case of needing to spend hours and hours thinking about messaging - just emphasise the Israel stats as an example of what mass vaccination does (rather than deliberately vague nonsense about Chile's rates) and encourage people to get the jag when called.

Anything else is just talking for the sake of talking.

 

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2 hours ago, Burnieman said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/covid-holidays-boris-johnson-travel-b1826155.html

So do we think we'll largely follow the same roadmap for International travel as England or create a mess with differing rules?  We all know NS likes to harp on about regretting allowing travel last year and how she won't make the same mistake again, but what does that mean exactly? it's a big gamble playing hard ball with peoples summer holidays with an election coming up.

First, if the Scottish Government even try to dick about again, I hope the airports and aviation industry have them in court at the drop of a hat.

Second, however, the testing requirement even if vaccinated still completely boils my piss. It is purely to get more money out of people, and after all, the Government have certainly spunked away enough on this white elephant, which is why they continue to drag it out. Surely say, this time next year/going into next summer, this utterly tedious, pointless testing requirement will be history.

1 hour ago, realmadrid said:

Quite a few fatties in those pics. 

I am glad they are out and should be made to walk up and down to shift some weight as we know now overweight people are at more risk

The disgusting fatties are still risking things for all of us:

 

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43 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said:

but corrupt unions have certainly done no end of damage in the UK.

Curse those trade unions, dishing out lucrative PPE contracts to their trade union cronies, wasting billions on incompetent trade union test and trace systems, giving their trade union mistresses hundreds of thousands of pounds in public money, I mean could go on.

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32 minutes ago, anotherchance said:

Personal highlight was Scot Gov and some news outlets parading obsese 40 somethings getting oxygen as the prime example of "anyone can get it" and need hospital treatment.

Or the otherwise healthy young guy who felt tired for a couple of days being brought out as a warning.

I saw numerous comments in reply to that one absolutely ridiculing it and, now that I think about it, I haven't seen any of those adverts since.

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28 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

To be quite honest, if the torries are in charge of giving out tenders for implementing this vaccine passport, then I’m not worried about it in the slightest, why worry about something that will be so late and so half arsed that itl have no effect on us at all

Possibly because the law requiring one to enter premises will be in place well beforehand which effectively is another form of lockdown.

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34 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

To be quite honest, if the torries are in charge of giving out tenders for implementing this vaccine passport, then I’m not worried about it in the slightest, why worry about something that will be so late and so half arsed that itl have no effect on us at all

 

More millions billions for Serco to fcuk it up.

 

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2 hours ago, Am Featha *****h Nan Clach said:

I think you think you've hit upon some sort of 'gotcha' content that the government have overlooked.

It does not relate to clinically tested and approved vaccinations. You could also gain access via a recent negative test, proof of antibodies from previous infection.

I'm not pro domestic vaccine passport but your claims are utter nonsense.

Wondering if @Thereisalight.. now realises why this is the equivalent of 'Magna Carta' quoting morons? 

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9 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

2 free LFT tests per week for anyone that wants them in England..... Shovelling more public money into the hands of their pals one assumes

That's their favourite pastime, always has been always will be. 

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38 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

2 free LFT tests per week for anyone that wants them in England..... Shovelling more public money into the hands of their pals one assumes

The sad part is that the curtain twitching hypochondriac types will lap it up. Testing to keep the numbers up and therefore maintain the adage that one person with a cough is one person too many

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5 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said:

Having to jump through hoops to go and see fcking Ayr United or any other dead beat team. Take a test to get to Somerset? Nah not for me I’m afraid 

You already regularly jump through hoops to get to the football. 

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9 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said:

Well quite a lot when you consider a large % of the BAME community wont want the vaccine. All theyd need to do is mention the Nuremberg Code and theyd immediately have a leg to stand on to get into places 

What on earth are you on about? The Nuremberg Code is a set of principles around ethics in medical research. I don't agree with Covid passports, mainly because I find it hard to see how much use they'd be, but if you're going to come up with an argument, don't just Godwin it.

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2 hours ago, oaksoft said:

This might be your vision of hell but the people you are referring to simply don't see life in those terms and are fairly content with their lot. If they weren't, they'd vote accordingly.

I know this is hard to accept but countless millions of people in this country seem to be pretty happy with what they've got. There is scant evidence to suggest otherwise. Anyone wanting to shift the current governments in Scotland and Westminster is going to have a hell of a job on their hands.

The single biggest thing was allowing people to buy their council houses, a lot easier to strike whilst residing in a council house, genius if you want to clip the wings of unions. 

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Now the Tories are proposing testing millions of symptomless people twice a week to facilitate the roll out of the digital ID restrictions.

Bear in mind that indoor hospitality was open in most of England in DECEMBER. This has nothing to do with the virus, it's actually pretty obvious they are more interested in rolling out this passport than they were in lowering deaths during each wave. 

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