Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Billy Jean King]

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COVID-19: Gigs and shows no more dangerous than going shopping, trials reportedly suggest

Matches at Wembley, a nightclub in Liverpool and the World Snooker Championships in Sheffield were among the test events.

Chris Robertson

Entertainment reporter @_ChrisRobertson

Wednesday 19 May 2021 10:35, UK

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Events without masks and social distancing are as safe as going to a shopping centre or eating in a restaurant, early reports appear to suggest.

Preliminary data, as seen by The Times, suggests that COVID-19 transmission can be significantly reduced at big events by the introduction of screening and improved ventilation, allaying fears that gigs, concerts and sports matches could cause serious coronavirus outbreaks.

 

It comes amid confusion and tension over the easing of the final lockdown restrictions in June, which are now being questioned following the appearance of yet another variant.

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According to the paper, the results of the trials will be sent to ministers over the next few days, as they work out what to do in the next steps in the fight against COVID-19, with the pilot events being a key detail involved in the decisions.

A decision about fully reopening the economy is due to be made next month, but there are fears the date could be pushed back in light of the new variant.

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A government source told The Times that the data was "encouraging", adding: "It will help make the case that these large events are not inherently more risky than other parts of the hospitality sector.

So by "screening" do they mean testing ie you will need to test negative ahead of admission. Suggests proof of vaccination or negative testing is likely to become the norm if we want to remove the SD and mask requirements.

[Todd_is_God]

15 minutes ago, Elixir said:

The Scottish Government have backed themselves into a corner with their ridiculous 'case number thresholds'.

Like relentless handwashing, sanitising surfaces and not being able to try on clothes in a shop before it, "cases" are just another example of a point blank refusal to remove focus on something that was (or was thought to be) useful earlier in the pandemic, but which is no longer relevant or impactful.

Variants are another. A convenient scapegoat for cancelling the (in retrospect) quite ludicrous 5 day free for all slap bang in the middle of the traditional respiratory virus season at Christmas they might have been, but despite vaccines long since relegating them to a complete irrelevance, they are still at the centre of many policies five months later.

Edited May 20, 2021 by Todd_is_God

[Bairnardo]

Like relentless handwashing, sanitising surfaces and not being able to try on clothes in a shop before it, "cases" are just another example of a point blank refusal to remove focus on something that was used earlier in the pandemic, but which are no longer relevant or impactful.
Variants are another. A convenient scapegoat for cancelling the (in retrospect) quite ludicrous 5 day free for all slap bang in the middle of the traditional respiratory virus season at Christmas they might have been, but despite vaccines long since relegating them to a complete irrelevance, they are still at the centre of many policies five months later.

Its quite simply high time the governments said that they have fulfilled their obligation to act, and at this point with the protection of a vaccine available, any further protection sought by individuals should be of their own making, and can no longer be provided by law at the expense of other individuals.

Want to stay in? Stay in. Want to wear a mask? Wear a mask.

Dont ask for me or anyone else to continue putting our life on hold because you dont think a 97% effective vaccine is enough safety for you.

[true_rover]

It is a concern but not a surprise that hospital numbers are back up a bit. There is nothing as yet to suggest we’ll get back to a situation where Covid will put hospitals under significant stress again. Vaccination remains key to this.

Worth keeping an eye on the daily admission figures alongside the total figure (in case this is hiding people staying in hospital longer). The Scottish figures are a little slower at coming out than the rest of the UK, but these have been in single figures for all but 3 days since the 28th April.

Weekly averages are:
W/e 15th May - 8 per day
W/e 8th May - 8.6 per day
W/e 1st May - 8.3 per day
W/e 24th May - 11 per day

This peaked at 241 on 11th January.

[Arch Stanton]

1 hour ago, superbigal said:

COVID-19: Gigs and shows no more dangerous than going shopping...

As has been pointed out, at 1400 on Saturday there will be more people in ASDA Toryglen than will be across the road in Hampden for our national cup final.

A disgrace.

[TheScarf]

'I make no apologies for wanting to keep people safe'

Yes that fine Nicola, but what about the lives being ruined/business going under caused by what seems like never ending restrictions?  Can you and your government apologise for that?

[Marshmallo]

Sitting here rn reminiscing and I think this was the ultimate moment of the pandemic thus far for me

 

[Have some faith in Magic]

It's amazing that 25% of cases are in 0-14 year olds who can't get it and can't transmit it. 

Who can we blame for that and what should we demand is shut? 

[Left Back]

1 minute ago, Have some faith in Magic said:

It's amazing that 25% of cases are in 0-14 year olds who can't get it and can't transmit it. 

Who can we blame for that and what should we demand is shut? 

Pubs.  they've clearly been letting them in with false ID's if they have covid.

[Ron Aldo]

Pubs.  they've clearly been letting them in with false ID's if they have covid.

I'd have put it down to barbers and hair dressers. Kids always get a haircut before they go back to school but the schools have been so stop-start for the past year that they've needed more haircuts than usual.

Barbers are clearly the cause of any rise in cases.

[Elixir]

Probably because 'tracking and tracing' a widespread, endemic virus is a fucking pointless endeavor.

[Elixir]

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AZ vaccine gives better-than-expected 90% reduction in cases

Robert Cuffe

BBC head of statistics

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Public Health England has just published real-world data - as opposed to those from clinical trials - suggesting having a second dose of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine lifts its efficacy from about 60% to 90%.

We had already seen data on the effectiveness of the second dose of the Pfizer vaccine, but these are the first to estimate the effects of the second dose of the AZ vaccine.

The study, published by PHE, looked at cases of coronavirus detected in the community among those aged over 65 (the first groups to be vaccinated).

It found that, a fortnight after the first dose of the Pfizer or AZ vaccine, the odds of getting symptomatic Covid fell by nearly 60%, consistent with previous reports.

After a second dose of Pfizer or AZ, cases were about 90% lower than among those who had not been vaccinated.

These results are better than those observed in the clinical trials and those assumed by scientific modellers supporting the most recent unlocking.

[BigDoddyKane]

4 minutes ago, Elixir said:

Probably because 'tracking and tracing' a widespread, endemic virus is a fucking pointless endeavor.

I dont think Ive read of any country where track or trace had any real benefit, has any been documented?

[Elixir]

3 minutes ago, BigDoddyKane said:

I dont think Ive read of any country where track or trace had any real benefit, has any been documented?

Things went utterly to shit in the 'gold standard' Germany last autumn, which is to be expected really. We wouldn't 'track and trace' other widespread, endemic respiratory viruses for this very reason. Another charade that can be filed in the bin.

[ac2907]

Booked my tickets for Hamilton races next Wednesday. Looking forward to a bit of normality during this ongoing shitshow.

[Alex_14]

Not the case. Ankle tags were mentioned in the media last year but that’s all.
https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/covid-19/covid-19/trying-get-home/covid-19-re-entry-and-quarantine-measures

Mate, she’s literally had the communication to say she needs to wear a ‘health band’. Not making it up. Will provide a pic of it once she’s there if you like.

[peasy23]

Was due to have my 1st jag on Sunday. Now self isolating due to being a close contact.
I’m not suggesting the mad 55yo antivaxxer in the office has fucked it for the rest of us, but he does live in Pollokshields and the 4 other people in the meeting with him on Monday also have to isolate...

Plenty of time to watch the golf then.

[betting competition]

2 hours ago, CALDERON said:

Aberdeen absolutely strolling it.  Stand Free! (of the virus)

Soul Bar will ruin it! 

[Lyle Lanley]

Hearing there's a outbreak at one of the schools in Dalkeith. 

 

Edited May 20, 2021 by Lyle Lanley

[NotThePars]

6 hours ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

Rico left P&B after spending about ten pages in a Sportscene thread defending Celtic fans booing a minute's silence at a Ross County game, then making a thread in the Platinum forum complaining about trolls, only for Rugster to then share that with the rest of the forum.

It's a shame if we lost another Yes Da though, they're always good fun.

I tweeted something years ago fairly innocuous about Sturgeon and he replied (never interacted with the guy) about how she was a disgrace for implementing all-women shortlists. NAP that he rotted his brain and became a Yes Da.