tamthebam Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: It's just a random statistic put against another to shock people. There's no vaccine for cancer to start with. A pedant writes: There's an form of Human Papilloma virus that can cause cervical cancer which is why there's a programme of giving HPV vaccine to 12-13 year old girls. I remember NHS Scotland TV ads about it. So I suppose technically that is a vaccine against cancer. As you were. Edited July 14, 2021 by tamthebam Stupidity 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: It's just a random statistic put against another to shock people. There's no vaccine for cancer to start with. Over half a million people die every year from non covid related things, the difference is that Covid deaths are actually becoming preventable. They aren't random, they are inextricably linked when the same health service has to deal with both and have been prioritising one over all else. There will be cancer patients that have died from curable cancers through lack of timely medical intervention, as I posted before we should be dealing with covid proportionately and not the Covid before all else that has been the case for over a year now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_14 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 That’s a U-turn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 19 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: That's fair enough, but we're not there anymore. The vaccine has completely changed the playing field, yet the pre-vaccine mentality of "iTs nOt fLu" remains. Correct, it isn't, but it's impact at the most serious end appears now to be very comparable. We really do need to collectively stop looking at covid deaths as more tragic or preventable than any other deaths and accept that a relatively small number of people are going to get seriously ill and die as a result of it. Until we do that, we won't move on. It will be interesting to see at what point it becomes ok to declare the pandemic "over" In Scotland the Indy situation will play into this as declaring it over will then raise expectations of another referendum. Far better for the SNP to continue to use COVID as their reason for delay until they find a new reason for delay. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Alex_14 said: That’s a U-turn. Encouraging businesses to do things is different to mandating. It's part of the desired gradual return to normal rather than a flick of a switch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 It will take quite some time to shut the bed wetters up and file away all the gestures and theatre. But it will get there... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, strichener said: They aren't random, they are inextricably linked when the same health service has to deal with both and have been prioritising one over all else. There will be cancer patients that have died from curable cancers through lack of timely medical intervention, as I posted before we should be dealing with covid proportionately and not the Covid before all else that has been the case for over a year now. It was never an either or thing though. Patients who entered hospital to get treated for other things were infected with covid and died. So they had to decide whether it was safer to delay treatment that would lower their immunity, during a time of rampant spread, or go ahead and take the chance. Isolating cancer patients say from the rest of the population isn't that easy, you'd have to have doctors, nurses, support staff etc living in a bubble for a start. Then another bubble for Covid patients. They didn't choose to make Covid a priority, it was a fact of life. Edited July 14, 2021 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 hours ago, scottsdad said: Went to an indoor crazy golf course in Dunfermline with the kids. It is like a huge balloon and was utterly roasting. Half of folk wore face masks. I kept mine on until the sixth hole. Couldn't last any longer and took it off. Two shot penalty? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 For fck sake, sounds like testing upon testing to keep someones pal in clover 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said: That's fair enough, but we're not there anymore. The vaccine has completely changed the playing field, yet the pre-vaccine mentality of "iTs nOt fLu" remains. Correct, it isn't, but it's impact at the most serious end appears now to be very comparable. We really do need to collectively stop looking at covid deaths as more tragic or preventable than any other deaths and accept that a relatively small number of people are going to get seriously ill and die as a result of it. Until we do that, we won't move on. It will be interesting to see at what point it becomes ok to declare the pandemic "over" August 2020 I think? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Wee Bully said: August 2020 I think? Well according to Clownshoes earlier this year we were now dealing with "a different virus" so August 2020 would be accurate for the previous pandemic. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Red dotted you for throwing away a great gif on a terrible come back. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: Theyd have hated Somerset on Tue night. Not only is it a quaint shit hole but everyone was standing where they liked and I'd say about 10% wore masks. Stewards werent fussed. Glorious 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 43 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: I guess that's why he's a money saving expert... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Theyd have hated Somerset on Tue night. Not only is it a quaint shit hole but everyone was standing where they liked and I'd say about 10% wore masks. Stewards werent fussed. Glorious Somerset. Glorious.Fair play, you've given me a wee morning chuckle there. [emoji274] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 51 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: Somerset. Glorious. Fair play, you've given me a wee morning chuckle there. Regularly voted the favourite senior ground in Scotland by others club fans for an away day. I wonder where Rugby Park comes in there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said: Regularly voted the favourite senior ground in Scotland by others club fans for an away day. The football equivalent of slowing down to get a good glimpse of a car wreck. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 minute ago, mathematics said: The football equivalent of slowing down to get a good glimpse of a car wreck. It’s just class tbh. The jealousy from Killie fans whilst they sit in their empty seated hole is just an added bonus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Grimm Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Both are good days out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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