Abdul_Latif Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, superbigal said: What about the sheer crassness of the EIS. Want schools to close a week early so their members can plan their holiday. How out of touch are unions these days ?: EIS are the worst of the bunch. They’d vote in favour of stopping education for children altogether and asking for a 25% pay rise at the same time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I think we can all safely assume, and will have to accept, that there will be restrictions every winter for years to come.Why should we just accept restrictions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, red23 said: here's a thought, for most cases just ignore whatever shite they come out with and use your own best judgement calls? When the first lockdown happened and we got the "one 10 minute walk per day" my sister followed it to the letter and would panic if not back in 10 minutes. She had a newborn who would cry a lot as they do but only settle with a walk but she'd say "i really wish i could but i've had my walk today though, i can't go out again until tomorrow" Our boy was born around the beginning of the whole shebang. If someone had tried telling us we could only go out for one ten minute walk a day and actually tried enforcing it, they'd most likely have ended up with the nearest household object bouncing off their forehead. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ron Aldo Posted December 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2021 Yep. I have a break in UK booked for the Christmas period. Something for my wee ones to look forward to. They have had a shit 3.5 years with my cancer diagnosis and then covid. Selfishly I would be absolutely fucking gutted if it was cancelled. [emoji24]Not at all. This idea that people are somehow selfish because they want to live their lives needs binned. 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I'm sure the first person to have died "with" Omicron will be some young person with no underlying health conditions and not a 96 year old who has been in and out of hospital for years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Tbh I don’t see how the fact that 1 person has died ‘with’ omicron tells us very much. As far as I can see, no one is saying omicron is harmless, but that the indications are it’s significantly less severe. Even if that is correct, there will still sadly be some deaths. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrExile Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, TheScarf said: I think we can all safely assume, and will have to accept, that there will be restrictions every winter for years to come. If the population can build up some immunity and the govt prepare the Nhs then that shouldn't really be necessary 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Jason Leitch coming up on Radio Scotland if anyone fancies hearing the hints of what’s to come tomorrow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, Empty It said: 1 hour ago, TheScarf said: I think we can all safely assume, and will have to accept, that there will be restrictions every winter for years to come. Why should we just accept restrictions? We shouldn’t. But we will probably have to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Maybe I'm having a bad day, but that Boris Johnson quote has absolutely riled me. Quote So I think the idea that this is somehow a milder version of the virus, I think that's something we need to set on one side and just recognise the sheer pace at which it accelerates through the population. So the best thing we can do is all get our boosters." What the actual f**k is this? Person dies of covid has been a sad but routine fact throughout the last twenty months. Indeed, we have averaged about 150 deaths a day for the past few months and not an eyelid has been batted about that. That someone has died of the Omicron variant (sorry, WITH the Omicron variant) is not exactly a massive surprise either. Unfortunately, some people do die of the virus. You should avoid direct comparisons between countries as they are not comparable, but you can draw some inferences. South Africa's hospitals are not filling up the way they did with Delta and this is a country with a vaccination rate far below the UK's. The qualifier is that they have a younger population than we do, almost certainly in part to inferior standards of healthcare. Two things can be true at once: it might be milder, but some may still die from it. There is a doomsday feel about Omicron tht seems to be harking back to the pre-vaccine, "we just don't know" days of April and May 2020 and it's really starting to grate given that we live in one of the most vaccinated countries in the world. There is still no evidence that the vaccines don't protect against serious illness. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I'm sure the first person to have died "with" Omicron will be some young person with no underlying health conditions and not a 96 year old who has been in and out of hospital for years.Is this the case? I couldn’t find a source for it but saw one guy on FB saying the person was 96 years old. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Michael W said: Maybe I'm having a bad day, but that Boris Johnson quote has absolutely riled me. What the actual f**k is this? Person dies of covid has been a sad but routine fact throughout the last twenty months. Indeed, we have averaged about 150 deaths a day for the past few months and not an eyelid has been batted about that. That someone has died of the Omicron variant (sorry, WITH the Omicron variant) is not exactly a massive surprise either. Unfortunately, some people do die of the virus. You should avoid direct comparisons between countries as they are not comparable, but you can draw some inferences. South Africa's hospitals are not filling up the way they did with Delta and this is a country with a vaccination rate far below the UK's. The qualifier is that they have a younger population than we do, almost certainly in part to inferior standards of healthcare. Two things can be true at once: it might be milder, but some may still die from it. There is a doomsday feel about Omicron tht seems to be harking back to the pre-vaccine, "we just don't know" days of April and May 2020 and it's really starting to grate given that we live in one of the most vaccinated countries in the world. There is still no evidence that the vaccines don't protect against serious illness. They are trying to shift peoples mindset back to covid being a serious thing. They’ve had months in England with no masks and people not really caring. So the language is deliberately provocative and ‘hard hitting’. See also ‘tsunami’ and ‘galloping towards us’. its 100% been coached by the psychologists as to how to get people back in a ‘war footing’. Nuance and facts around the science of the new variant are not welcome at this time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 It's all going to be over in a few weeks anyway (apparently), so who really cares. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 The politicians have lost the plot on this. The news coming in from southern Africa is not in the least bit similar to Wuhan in Jan 2020 or India in Feb 2021 where delta was concerned. Maybe the old story of generals still using tactics suitable for the previous war they were involved in rather than the one they are actually faced with in the here and now. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Meanwhile, more compelling evidence that masks make all the difference! Oh... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 The human immune system working the same for this shan virus as it does for all others? Repeat infections in now non-naive individuals a complete non-story? Who could have thought! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Leitch saying they haven't run out of LFD tests, just they've reached the limit in the amount that can be sent via Royal Mail in a day, and more available to book online at 8pm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I can’t be bothered going back to find the posts, but the government are absolutely making a rod for their own back with the unions in schools etc. They can’t continue their fear project, and at the same time not expect unions to question why things carry on as normal in one of the most transmissible environments there is. I obviously don’t think anything should close, but if the government are discussing a tsunami of cases, and implying that the vaccines won’t work then of course a union is going to question this. As per this time last year really. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddfg Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, TheScarf said: I think we can all safely assume, and will have to accept, that there will be restrictions every winter for years to come. Assuming that politicans will feel the need to intefere and accepting this are not necessarily the same thing. Sadly too many are happy to accept free this and free that that they have stopped thinking for themselves. Maybe if more people had something to loose they might be less accepting of all this nonsense for what on this occasion appears to be nothing more than a bad cold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, Rugster said: Leitch saying they haven't run out of LFD tests, just they've reached the limit in the amount that can be sent via Royal Mail in a day, and more available to book online at 8pm. 21-12-13-12-58-23.mp4 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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