Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[s_dog]

16 minutes ago, SoapMactavish said:

You can’t treat folk with what is essentially a complex multi-system disease process in folk actually ill with it in a dedicated ‘Covid Hospital’. 

You need access to all the specialism’s on site if there is a problem.

Confused and falls and breaks hip - Needs Orthopaedics.

Has a stroke secondary to Covid -Needs Stroke team input.

etc etc

 

It was one of the major issues we highlighted at the Louisa Jordan was folk would have to be transferred back to another hospital if they developed any weird complications.

If it was purely a respiratory illness that didn’t cause any other problems it would be great. But its sadly not.

Exactly. In theory it makes some sense, keep all covid patients in one hospital and all other patients in another, no problem with infecting all the non-Covid patients then. But what country in the world has either the spare hospitals or the additional staff that it would need. In the UK we don't even have the staff for the hospitals we've got. 

[strichener]

25 minutes ago, SoapMactavish said:

You can’t treat folk with what is essentially a complex multi-system disease process in folk actually ill with it in a dedicated ‘Covid Hospital’. 

You need access to all the specialism’s on site if there is a problem.

Confused and falls and breaks hip - Needs Orthopaedics.

Has a stroke secondary to Covid -Needs Stroke team input.

etc etc

 

It was one of the major issues we highlighted at the Louisa Jordan was folk would have to be transferred back to another hospital if they developed any weird complications.

If it was purely a respiratory illness that didn’t cause any other problems it would be great. But its sadly not.

Your examples are not symptoms of Covid though, so how many of the "for Covid" admissions are going to need a stroke team or orthopaedic care?

Is that not like saying you can't have minor ailments clinics incase someone has a heart attack whilst having their skin tag removed?

Edited December 31, 2021 by strichener

[gav-ffc]

Nicked from travelling tabby 

[SoapMactavish]

3 minutes ago, strichener said:

Your examples are not symptoms of Covid though, so how many of the "for Covid" admissions are going to need a stroke team or orthopaedic care?

Is that not like saying you can't have minor ailments clinics incase someone has a heart attack whilst having their skin tag removed?

I mean, Delirium and Clotting problems in particular are massive problems with people who are clinically ill enough with Covid to be in hospital. 
 

The point I’m making is there is no sense in putting all the Covid patients in one hospital, then having to move them to a non-covid hospital when something goes wrong with their treatment. 

[Ron Aldo]

That's a brilliant effort

Credit where its due. One of the things we've been consistently good at and got right has been the vaccination programme.

It's a shame that clearly hasn't translated to getting complete normality back.

[Todd_is_God]

25 minutes ago, anotherchance said:

Absolutely, it’s just a shame that when it comes to “being seen to do something” the SG feel the need to bring in restrictions rather than acknowledge that the successful vaccine programme is the epitome of “doing something”

This surely puts them in a position, though.

Given much of the reasoning for restrictions was to slow the spread as they rolled vaccines out, they surely have to now lift them on the 17th. Anything else and they are essentially saying they don't work.

[Todd_is_God]

25 minutes ago, strichener said:

It's a good effort but the claim on offering an appointment is actually shite unless you count sending a text message as being invited.  However when the wife and I looked to book ours last week, the 4th January was the earliest available.  

I hadn't considered this but surely they wouldn't have the gall to use the very same play on words they eviscerated the Tories for last January?

[UsedToGoToCentralPark]

I hadn't considered this but surely they wouldn't have the gall to use the very same play on words they eviscerated the Tories for last January?

It's only not a competition when the Scot Gov aren't in first place.

[H Wragg]

I hadn't considered this but surely they wouldn't have the gall to use the very same play on words they eviscerated the Tories for last January?

It's the first thing I thought of when I saw the word 'offering'.

[strichener]

8 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

I hadn't considered this but surely they wouldn't have the gall to use the very same play on words they eviscerated the Tories for last January?

Surely not and yet, clearly they have.

[Stephen Malkmus]

English hospitalisations starting to shoot up quickly now, hopefully that doesn't translate into ICU spaces being taken up in a few days time.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare#card-patients_admitted_to_hospital

Edited December 31, 2021 by Stephen Malkmus

[Left Back]

41 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

I hadn't considered this but surely they wouldn't have the gall to use the very same play on words they eviscerated the Tories for last January?

Have they not changed their tune?  I thought SG's target was delivered boosters to 80% of eligible people by New Year?  (or something like that).  I think they recognised fairly early that 100% would be impossible.

[Bairnardo]

Theres only 1 valid reason to trumpet that tbh. Get restrictions tae f**k

[printer]

On 30/12/2021 at 17:41, Rugster said:

Monkey Tennis is clearly a God botherer. 

If you really believe that, then you are completely missing the points he is making.

[printer]

20 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said:

Eh?

In what possible way does good news regarding the impact of this variant dent any of what I've been saying?  

What a foolish take.

Left Back clearly isn't particularly clever.

[Granny Danger]

1 minute ago, printer said:

Left Back clearly isn't particularly clever.

That may be true but he’s cleverer than most on here.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

2 hours ago, Todd_is_God said:

That's a brilliant effort

Yep, the vaccine roll out for the booster has been superb. Deserve massive credit for that. 

[printer]

6 hours ago, s_dog said:

Your last sentence, yep can't disagree with that. He sounded clueless and that was a bit of a disaster of an interview for him and the Scottish Government.

Anytime I've heard him speak he sounds pretty clueless.

[djchapsticks]

20 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

That may be true but he’s cleverer than most on here.

'4.5 billion dead by this time next week' means you will never be in any position to insult anyone's intelligence.

Unlucks!

[Blue Brazil Forever]

1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said:

This surely puts them in a position, though.

Given much of the reasoning for restrictions was to slow the spread as they rolled vaccines out, they surely have to now lift them on the 17th. Anything else and they are essentially saying they don't work.

A point I made to my MSP. My wife and have had our two jabs plus the booster as well as a flu jab as dictated by the SG and perhaps SAGE. Thank you very much, Fife NHS and my surgery. We do appreciate that there is still much diminished chance of positive  exposure - we are both in our mid eighties with underlying health problems. For us however, life is now too short to put up with the  heavy handed panicked response. Both the politicians making the decisions and the "science" are now close to completely losing all credibilty and  trust.