superbigal Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) Not posted on this thread for a while but have been reading the NRS Scotland death statistics. The things that stood out were the number (is it suprising ?) who apparently died due to the covid Vaccine in July. Other thing being Covid is now on about 6% of death certificates in week 32. However excess deaths are at about 11% https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/statistics/statistics-by-theme/vital-events/general-publications/weekly-and-monthly-data-on-births-and-deaths/deaths-involving-coronavirus-covid-19-in-scotland Monthly Key Findings The age standardised death rate for deaths involving COVID-19 was higher in July 2022 (78 per 100,000) compared to June 2022 (48 per 100,000). There have been 9 deaths in Scotland in which the underlying cause of death was due to the adverse effects of vaccination against COVID-19 and four further deaths where an adverse effect was mentioned on the death certificate (an increase of two from last month). Weekly Key Findings In week 32 there were 66 deaths involving COVID-19 (6 more than the previous week). The provisional total number of all deaths registered in Scotland in week 32 of 2022 (8th to 14th July) was 1,126 (112 or 11% above the 5-year average). Edited August 18, 2022 by superbigal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Scumbag, unmasked fish travelling across the ocean and spreading covid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, virginton said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/18/city-in-china-orders-fish-swabbed-for-covid The word 'bonkers' in the dictionary should just link to these clowns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Some level of entrenchment, to not be able to admit China have lost the fucking plot. Folk having to literally run from an IKEA in order not to spend the next 5 nights there = "taking it seriously" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Some level of entrenchment, to not be able to admit China have lost the fucking plot. Folk having to literally run from an IKEA in order not to spend the next 5 nights there = "taking it seriously" Tbf I cropped out what she was actually talking about, which was China building quarantine camps at the end of last year. Not that it's much better really. Just something she has been continually ripped for on Twitter as China's descent into madness continues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Is it really in the public interest to pursue this?Yes. At the time the government with the full backing of her party had imposed all sorts of sanctions that basically meant the vast majority of people were hardly allowed to leave the house. She broke multiple laws in place at the time, so deserves everything that comes her way. Shameless bitch should have resigned, and it's high time there was a formal disciplinary process that allowed MPs to be sacked. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Arthur Orton Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 56 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Called this 18 months ago when it became obviously that all cancer and other targets had been ignored whilst we "dealt" with covid. Who'd have thought terrifying people into staying in the house and insisting they don't bother the NHS would lead to massive delays in diagnosis, treatment and lead to excess deaths. Seen it so many times, "why have you waited so long", the reply invariably is "we didn't want to bother you" Who'd of thought cancelling thousands of operations and appointments would lead to pre existing conditions becoming much worse. This of course doesn't include the discharge of addictions patients as apparently you didn't need that during a pandemic and the policies that fuelled a massive mental health crisis I'm thus country. Chuck in waiting times through the roof thanks to decisions taken during lockdown the service is on its arse. Of course nobody will be held accountable as they were all just keeping us safe despite ignoring their own promises, the science etc when it suited to continue with awful lockdowns. Incredibly sad and tragic for those now paying the price and who already have . 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Tynie Pecksniff said: Called this 18 months ago when it became obviously that all cancer and other targets had been ignored whilst we "dealt" with covid. Who'd have thought terrifying people into staying in the house and insisting they don't bother the NHS would lead to massive delays in diagnosis, treatment and lead to excess deaths. Seen it so many times, "why have you waited so long", the reply invariably is "we didn't want to bother you" Who'd of thought cancelling thousands of operations and appointments would lead to pre existing conditions becoming much worse. This of course doesn't include the discharge of addictions patients as apparently you didn't need that during a pandemic and the policies that fuelled a massive mental health crisis I'm thus country. Chuck in waiting times through the roof thanks to decisions taken during lockdown the service is on its arse. Of course nobody will be held accountable as they were all just keeping us safe despite ignoring their own promises, the science etc when it suited to continue with awful lockdowns. Incredibly sad and tragic for those now paying the price and who already have . Aye but business had to close and people's mental health suffered because we needed to keep 93 year old Agnes safe! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Tynie Pecksniff said: Called this 18 months ago when it became obviously that all cancer and other targets had been ignored whilst we "dealt" with covid. Who'd have thought terrifying people into staying in the house and insisting they don't bother the NHS would lead to massive delays in diagnosis, treatment and lead to excess deaths. Seen it so many times, "why have you waited so long", the reply invariably is "we didn't want to bother you" Who'd of thought cancelling thousands of operations and appointments would lead to pre existing conditions becoming much worse. This of course doesn't include the discharge of addictions patients as apparently you didn't need that during a pandemic and the policies that fuelled a massive mental health crisis I'm thus country. Chuck in waiting times through the roof thanks to decisions taken during lockdown the service is on its arse. Of course nobody will be held accountable as they were all just keeping us safe despite ignoring their own promises, the science etc when it suited to continue with awful lockdowns. Incredibly sad and tragic for those now paying the price and who already have . It was so glaringly obvious what would be to come because of the path that was taken. Are the Swedes seeing such society-wide issues on this scale? I'm going to go ahead and say no. 32 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Aye but business had to close and people's mental health suffered because we needed to keep 93 year old Agnes safe! Mind, you were a granny killer if you questioned any of this. Wee bit of a minter for the zealots these days, like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Tynie Pecksniff said: Called this 18 months ago when it became obviously that all cancer and other targets had been ignored whilst we "dealt" with covid. Who'd have thought terrifying people into staying in the house and insisting they don't bother the NHS would lead to massive delays in diagnosis, treatment and lead to excess deaths. Seen it so many times, "why have you waited so long", the reply invariably is "we didn't want to bother you" Who'd of thought cancelling thousands of operations and appointments would lead to pre existing conditions becoming much worse. This of course doesn't include the discharge of addictions patients as apparently you didn't need that during a pandemic and the policies that fuelled a massive mental health crisis I'm thus country. Chuck in waiting times through the roof thanks to decisions taken during lockdown the service is on its arse. Of course nobody will be held accountable as they were all just keeping us safe despite ignoring their own promises, the science etc when it suited to continue with awful lockdowns. Incredibly sad and tragic for those now paying the price and who already have . As the July and June Stats now are saying in Scotland. Death Certificates with Covid mentioned 6% Excess Deaths to 5 year trends 11% 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Haven’t been in an NHS hospital for some time but are they still going through all the pantomime of social distancing, masks, Covid separation, etc., etc., ? All that nonsense must be holding back the throughput of patients Have been in a private hospital and everything seemed normal apart from medical staff wearing masks. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 The fish testing from China really is something else. I mean, we all know the way they do things over can seem a bit crazy to us, but this is just utter insanity. What on earth could possibly be their scientific reasoning? (Silly me, I forgot scientific reasoning only applied pre-2020), 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, Snafu said: https://news.stv.tv/west-central/mp-margaret-ferrier-pleads-guilty-to-exposing-public-to-covid MP Margaret Ferrier pleads guilty to exposing public to Covid The Rutherglen and Hamilton West politician admitted to culpably and recklessly exposing people to coronavirus. Reckless Ess En Pee !!! I’m no SNP fan but I think they’re going a bit over the top here just as they did with Partygate, Starmer and all the other stuff. I know there were rules but they were nonsensical as are now being proved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, Snafu said: https://news.stv.tv/west-central/mp-margaret-ferrier-pleads-guilty-to-exposing-public-to-covid MP Margaret Ferrier pleads guilty to exposing public to Covid The Rutherglen and Hamilton West politician admitted to culpably and recklessly exposing people to coronavirus. Reckless Ess En Pee !!! She’s from Rutherglen and Hamilton West. She’s suffered enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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btb Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: I’m no SNP fan but I think they’re going a bit over the top here just as they did with Partygate, Starmer and all the other stuff. I know there were rules but they were nonsensical as are now being proved. The Ferrier episode happened pre-vaccine so at that time the rules were not nonsensical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Zetterlund said: The fish testing from China really is something else. I mean, we all know the way they do things over can seem a bit crazy to us, but this is just utter insanity. What on earth could possibly be their scientific reasoning? (Silly me, I forgot scientific reasoning only applied pre-2020), The thing is, it's literally not biologically possible for the fish to contract covid. 1 hour ago, btb said: The Ferrier episode happened pre-vaccine so at that time the rules were not nonsensical. Err, some 'rules' were absolutely nonsensical from the beginning. Granted, going about knowing you were positive as Ferrier did back then was unethical. Should it ever have been a criminal offence, however? That's certainly debateable - and not something ever previously considered appropriate in 'public health'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatmygoal Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Elixir said: Err, some 'rules' were absolutely nonsensical from the beginning. Granted, going about knowing you were positive as Ferrier did back then was unethical. Should it ever have been a criminal offence, however? That's certainly debateable - and not something ever previously considered appropriate in 'public health' I agree that lots of things were done that defied logic even at the time. However, in the early days pre vaccine with the original strain of covid case fatality was high and knowingly (this being the important bit) exposing others to this was beyond selfish. The fact that she was an elected politician from a party implementing covid policy doesn't look good as I'm sure she will have been well aware of the potential consequences of her actions (or more worryingly perhaps not). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, Eatmygoal said: I agree that lots of things were done that defied logic even at the time. However, in the early days pre vaccine with the original strain of covid case fatality was high and knowingly (this being the important bit) exposing others to this was beyond selfish. It really, really wasn't. Many of the rules were nonsense at that time but I don't recall Ferrier or anyone else taking a stance against Chief Mammy in Bute House. Lock her up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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