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1 minute ago, Szamo's_Ammo said:

Yes it should.

How many people are seeking "help" for issues with alcohol, particularly during a pandemic?

What help is available for the millions of people in this country who, to some extent, rely on alcohol if they all suddenly seek help at the same time?

They'll all wake up and realise alcohol is bad and thank WhiteRoseKillie for his P6-level solutions once they've sobered up.

 

 

Depends - just under 3rd of Scots drank more under lockdown - if that's a coping strategy for dealing with the stress and strain of a pandemic, its understandable - if it continued after the pandemic for lifes other stresses then its an issue and should be spoken about.

Help is available in a number of guises  - speak to your pals/ family. Speak to your GP. Seek private help https://www.alcoholrecoveryscotland.co.uk/ https://www.help4addiction.co.uk/find-rehab-clinic/drug-alcohol-rehab-scotland/

Help from national charities https://www.alcohol-focus-scotland.org.uk/

The Scottish Government has issued funding to some of the above https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-support-for-alcohol-and-drug-services/

Everyone who has a problem with alcohol  is unlikely to go down one route for help and support and the existing structures would struggle at first but would eventually clear. It would be impossible to collate the numbers of people seeking help, due to the range of help available.

I expect if WRK's plan was actually ever considered some people probably would realise they have a problem - the problem is unlikely to be resolved however by a ban in the sale of alcohol and more likely push the most vulnerable into the arms of organised criminal gangs  

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Bad news: Hospital numbers and ICU numbers up

Good news: A drop in cases in the last couple of days and %. I know Monday is low generally but Sunday has sometimes produced the biggest number of the week. And this Monday’s number is smaller than before.

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"Men and young 'less likely to follow rules'

The government's self-isolation rules mean a person cannot leave their house - even to buy food or other essentials, or to exercise.

It requires anyone with symptoms or a positive test result to isolate for 10 days, while members of their household or people who have been contacted by Test and Trace must quarantine for 14 days.

The crackdown on self-isolating comes as research carried out for the Department of Health found that the number of people with symptoms following the self-isolation rules was low.

Although people's intention to self-isolate was high - about 70% - only 11% of people went into quarantine after being asked to by NHS Test and Trace.

The most common reasons that people gave for not self-isolating were because they needed to go to the shops for groceries or a pharmacy or because their symptoms got better.

Men and younger people were also less likely to follow the test, trace and isolate guidance, the research added."

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Maybe they should just lock down the under 45s and let the oldies play like that Simpsons episode:

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13 minutes ago, Szamo's_Ammo said:

Yes it should.

1. How many people are seeking "help" for issues with alcohol, particularly during a pandemic?

2. What help is available for the millions of people in this country who, to some extent, rely on alcohol if they all suddenly seek help at the same time?

3. They'll all wake up and realise alcohol is bad and thank WhiteRoseKillie for his P6-level solutions once they've sobered up.

 

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^^^ Reading WhiteRose's posts on the UK's drugs and alcohol problem.

Dear Lord.

1. No idea.

2. AA, for a start. If that's not your bag, a quick search on the NHS site reveals 14 different service providers within twenty miles of WRK Towers. Other specialist providers help families and children of users who have not themselves sought help.

3. Nice to see I've blagged twenty years of substance-misuse work with the education of a 10-year-old.

Now, given that the bad man probably isn't coming after your particular drug of choice, any comment on the fact that the curtailmant of opening hours did not, until this morning, apply to our Lords and Masters?

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2 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said:
7 minutes ago, Szamo said:
The government should ban toilet roll.
Will stop people going out to buy it and slow the spread of the virus imvho.

Best solution is free bidets for every household.

"How do you solve the problem of toilet roll hoarding, Tweaky? "

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"Bidet...Bidet..Bidet..." 

 

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4 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

1. Now, given that the bad man probably isn't coming after your particular drug of choice,

2. any comment on the fact that the curtailmant of opening hours did not, until this morning, apply to our Lords and Masters?

1. Thank Shanks for that. 🍺🥃

2. I'm not in the least bit shocked or surprised they thought the rules shouldn't apply to them.

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9 minutes ago, Steven W said:

Where you seeing that?

I find that remarkable - it flies in the face of everything NS tells us every day at lunchtime

I suspect he's talking about this 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/glasgow-s-43m-nhs-louisa-jordan-hospital-set-to-close-despite-surge-in-scots-covid-cases-mmxmdj0ch?shareToken=6e2126e9317a0e67066c0e1bcc43f908

Which says they're planning on decommissioning it in April 2021 if you actually read the article and not the headline. 

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