Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Marshmallo]

5 minutes ago, flyingscot said:

Agreed and they seem unwilling to admit this. The idea Glasgow should not 'lose heart' as Sturgeon said is galling. We've spent 9 months in various lockdowns and what has this Level 3 lockdown been about- cases haven't really changed yet we'll be out of it next week? 

It's also annoying to see areas like Renfrewshire justified by 'it's only certain postcodes'. Glasgow's cases were certain postcodes- it was Pollokshields mainly- their case rates are as high yet get treated differently. 

I can't remember who posted it but they'd clearly wanted to make an example of Moray based on case numbers for 1 week, then Glasgow shot past the Moray rate and they were backed into a corner. They then changed their stance when other council area case rates went up but can't back down on the Glasgow situation yet. The Euros on the horizon hopefully means they're forced to budge next week but the inconsistencies and failure to make logical decisions is the latest in a long line of failures.

[Donathan]

7 minutes ago, BigDoddyKane said:

Its the SG making the decision , he might advise but thats it. It cant be any other way

Exactly that. It’s not a case that Sturgeon comes up with an idea and runs it past The Guys. The Guys advise on what they think should be done but it’s ultimately the decision for the FM and her cabinet to make, and whether they side with The Guys or overrule them, the buck stops with the government. 

[Billy Jean King]

Will Glasgow now go to L2 on Saturday 5th then L1 with the rest of us on Mon 7th June ?

[Venti]

33 minutes ago, superbigal said:

Todays number is equivalent of Scotland nearly having well over 20% of UKs infections. 

These feckers still not attending vaccine appointments need more than this softly softly approach.

Get the Hovitos to blow-dart them.

[Donathan]

2 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

Will Glasgow now go to L2 on Saturday 5th then L1 with the rest of us on Mon 7th June ?

I have a feeling the entire country will be held in L2 for an extra week or two and then will move to L1 together on the 14th or 21st. 

[Distant Doonhamer]

3 hours ago, Billy Jean King said:

He didn't clarify that just 33% "protection" from a single dose.

Leitch now saying they (public health professionals) are responsible for not moving Glasgow down quicker and the politicians (presumably he means the FM) would have moved Glasgow down sooner had it not been for him saying no. I'm stunned he has that much influence. Basically admitting he is making the decision and not the FM.

It’s ultimately the Government’s decision but it’d be a brave politician to go against such advice so one using an "abundance of caution" certainly isn’t going to. For all I’ve disagreed with many of the decisions that position is very easy when you don’t have the responsibility to make them.

Edited May 28, 2021 by Distant Doonhamer

[flyingscot]

This kind of thing seems like a smart idea to do in Glasgow for those that for whatever reason don't want to give details. 

[doulikefish]

The single dose Johnson and Johnson vaccine has been approved so hopefully that speeds things up 

[Thereisalight..]

50 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

1 hour ago, Thereisalight.. said:

If England do lift restrictions on the 21st I fear it will be with shit like this (covid passports, apps etc). Not a route I’d want Scotland to go down tbh 

You keep banging on about this but given normality with a proof of vaccination or continuing restrictions I suspect you will be pretty much out on a limb !

“normality” which includes proof of vaccination is a complete contradiction. There is nothing normal about having to prove your health status to go to a theatre etc 

[Elixir]

3 minutes ago, doulikefish said:

The single dose Johnson and Johnson vaccine has been approved so hopefully that speeds things up 

Won't make any difference if we're not due any doses until the autumn. Will be done and dusted by then.

[Thereisalight..]

28 minutes ago, Elixir said:

 

If there is one fcker that I trust less than BJ, it’s this clown. Hope he’s right on this occasion but the words “may not” always makes me think they’ll do the opposite 

[Elixir]

There was never any reason to put the cigars away. This is extremely good news. We simply have to get to full coverage among the remainder of the adult population - and then we're out of this, barring a potential 'exit wave' which will be within NHS capacity anyway.

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Posted at 11:35

Few vaccinated people turning up to A&E with Indian variant

Robert Cuffe

BBC head of statistics

Copyright: Reuters

With the variant first detected in India becoming the main version of coronavirus in the UK, the next question is whether the vaccines will still prevent people getting sick.

There’s some good news from Public Health England on that front.

Overall, just over 200 people so far have turned up to A&E with Covid that turned out to be the Indian variant.

The really good news is that just over a quarter of those people had received the vaccine. And only five (or 2.5%) of them had received both jabs.

Far more than a quarter of us have been vaccinated and far, far more than 2.5% of people have had both jabs.

If the vaccine wasn’t working, you’d expect more than a quarter of people turning up to A&E with Covid to be people who were vaccinated.

While there are ifs and buts with every number that we use to try to make sense of the variant, there’s a clear picture emerging from many different jigsaw pieces.

Vaccines reduce the chances that people will get sick from either of the main types of coronavirus in the UK.

The second jab reduces those chances even further.

 

[superbigal]

Daily Cases Update:   No change to the upwards trajectory.  This time another 3.13% and positivity up to 2.0%.  Scotland in total passes 50 per 100K again which is over 5 times that of Wales and twice of England. Positivity doubled since getting down to 1.0%

Some good signs as in the Scotgov broadcast.  Glasgow maybe is on the downwards. On the flip side Edinburgh has joined the club and now has Scotland's most ravaged neighbourhood.  Renfrewshire  may well be taking a run at top spot now.

Looking at England  the rate per 100K in a major city such as Liverpool is  only 8.0 ,  Solihull which would be Scotland's 4th city in terms of population 10.2.  In Wales where both Swansea & Cardiff would place as our 3rd and 4th cities in terms of population they stand at 11.3 & 10.4

In Europe no major country now is above 150 per 100K.  There are now nearly 30 countries in Europe with lower case numbers than Scotland. Including Italy and even savaged Czech Republic & Serbia.

Scotland peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan, (UK was 642.1)    Cases that day were 16,496 and test positivity rate was 11.9%  

Total Cases 7 days from 19th May to 25th May  were 2683 now 2767 up 3.13%.  Positivity was 1.9% now 2.0%.   Cases per 100k were 49.1 now 50.6

Home Nations Daily update:  UK Average  24.4 to 24.9 up 2.05%, England  23.1 to 23.6 up 2.16%,  Wales  9.0 to 9.3 up 3.33%, Northern Ireland 33.3 to 33.4 up  0.30%

Council progress in last 24 Hours as follows.

Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. 
https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

Naughty Level 3 Councils

Glasgow City  145.9 to 135.5   Maybe just maybe peaked as down over 7%

Clackmannanshire   151.3 to 126.1 Down 16.65% so surely peaked again.

Renfrewshire  97.2 to 115.6  Up near another 20%. Probably go top shortly.

East Renfrewshire   104.7 to 106.8  

Midlothian   90.9 to 85.4 Another maybe peaked

Dundee City   62.3 to 75.7  Another mover on way towards top up another 20%

East Dunbartonshire   73.6 to 70.9  Again maybe peaked

South Lanarkshire   55.5 to 63.0 Up 13.51% 

North Ayrshire  55.7 to 60.1 

City Of Edinburgh   43.2 to 52.0  Into the top tier. Silverknowes now Scotland's no go area at 920.4 per 100K   

Under 50 Level 2 Criteria Club

Stirling  37.2 to 46.7  Up another 25%

North Lanarkshire  34.6 to 41.9  Up 21%

East Ayrshire   34.4 to 36.1

South Ayrshire  22.2 to 34.6  Up 55% !!

Falkirk    29.2 to 31.7

Fife   29.4 to 29.2 

Perth & Kinross  27.6 to 28.3 

West Dunbartonshire   21.4 to 25.9 

West Lothian   20.8 to 21.8

The Should be in Level 1  Club Sub 20.0

Angus  20.7 to 19.8

Inverclyde 7.7 to 15.4 

Aberdeen City   13.1 to 14.9  

Moray   13.6 to 14.6 

East Lothian   23.3 to 13.1 Down over 40% back into smoky lands

Argyll & Bute   12.8 to 10.5

Aberdeenshire  11.5 to 10.0

Highlands  6.8 to 7.6

Scottish  Borders   6.1 to 4.3

Dumfries & Galloway  2.0 to 3.4  

Western Isles  3.7 to 0.0

 Orkney Islands  9.0 to 0.0 

Shetland Islands 0.0 to 0.0

Edited May 28, 2021 by superbigal

[Bairnardo]

These wee mini waves are just going to pass through most towns arent they? And break over the rocks, with not a single f**k given.... Glasgow is just going to drop like a stone now and the hospitals will hardly see a thing.

[Elixir]

1 hour ago, Thereisalight.. said:

If there is one fcker that I trust less than BJ, it’s this clown. Hope he’s right on this occasion but the words “may not” always makes me think they’ll do the opposite 

As I've said, I wouldn't be surprised to see them put plans in place and maybe it will see minimal use in the short term, but it is quite clear that it will be straight in the bin once there is no more reason or justification for it, as we are seeing in Israel and Denmark.

Not that I agree it ever should be necessary, but contracts and money will be dished out to Government pals, same as almost everything else. It will also cause a great deal of excitement for Detournement types around the world, convinced that it's tHe GrEaT rEsEt in action.

[Elixir]

12 minutes ago, superbigal said:

Looking at England  the rate per 100K in a major city such as Liverpool is  only 8.0 ,  Solihull which would be Scotland's 4th city in terms of population 10.2.  In Wales where both Swansea & Cardiff would place as our 3rd and 4th cities in terms of population they stand at 11.3 & 10.4

 

[die hard doonhamer]

16 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

These wee mini waves are just going to pass through most towns arent they? And break over the rocks, with not a single f**k given.... Glasgow is just going to drop like a stone now and the hospitals will hardly see a thing.

Absolutely. Glasgow will be sub 50 this time next week.

[Left Back]

10 minutes ago, Pato said:

haha

 

Bit harsh when the boy is dead.

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

5 minutes ago, die hard doonhamer said:

Absolutely. Glasgow will be sub 50 this time next week.

That's true, but it's tricky because officially Glasgow is still in lockdown, and the health 'experts' will say that this, combined with the vaccine, has the effect of mitigating the virus. 

They are still unwilling to remove lockdowns and let it become a battle between the virus and the vaccine. And the authorities simply won't this to happen until a much higher percentage of the population have been vaccinated. We're probably around 2 months away from the tipping point where we can say with pretty much certainty that the virus has been effectively suppresed. 

I don't like it, but it's the way it is. Get these vaccines into arms as fast as possible. 

 

[Elixir]

A mass flushing of heads down toilets must happen immediately.