Honest Saints Fan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Elixir said: Hopefully. Do folk down south now no longer have to wear a mask in airports/on planes until they get to their destination? I think planes going to USA use their mask rules as all over 2s have to wear masks on flights. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said: It’s not even really that though, that’s under 15s who have died within 28 days of a positive test. No idea how many have actually died due to Covid. I'll leave that one! Even at 47, it's obviously not good that 47 kids have died when you take that in isolation. I can't pull the exact stats for under 15s as the reports are set up 0-9 and 10-19, but three million of those two age groups have received a positive covid test. The risk of death is tiny and I would imagine is miniscule where there are no underlying health conditions. Lisa Diaz appeared a while back as a "concerned mum", I think on a fake sage video, talking about covid in schools and that she'd pulled her daughter out. It got a lot of traction at the time but faded as things tend to. Recently it seems that she's been threatened with prosecution because her daughter hasn't been at school for two years, so she's all over the media again. This seems to have kicked off a bit of a storm from the usual suspects, who are also shocked that an objectively ridiculous action has resulted in criticism. A fully paid-up member of the Deepti long covid calculator club as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Not legally. Think some airlines held onto it last summer as a condition of travel. Everyone necking their Spoons pints and scranning their breaky before the flight then having to stick their bit cloth on before boarding. Hysterical. Get it in the bin. 4 minutes ago, Honest Saints Fan said: I think planes going to USA use their mask rules as all over 2s have to wear masks on flights. That is tragic. 'Public health'. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Certainly, Jet2 don’t accept NHS exemption certificates. I suspect a airlines won't because the destination country requires a proper medical certificate for exemption. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Elixir said: Hopefully. Do folk down south now no longer have to wear a mask in airports/on planes until they get to their destination? Sadly, this never went away and I imagine it won't for a while. Edited January 19, 2022 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 "1 is 1 too many" will be the argument I expect. 1 is 1 too many. We should always be striving for greater understanding of therapeutics for example to inprove outcomes for all sufferers of all diseases. What we should not be doing is insisting that occasional mask use in a few mandated areas can/will stop the spread of a viral infection, or draw the various other false equivalences that are flying about as a result of the worlds governments refusing to acknowledge that the measures they introduced in the face of a novel virus werent actually effective to any real degree...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Downing Street has defended the decision to maintain the testing requirements for people arriving in the UK. The PM also stressed the importance of people getting a booster jab if they want to travel abroad this summer. His official spokesman says "at this point in the pandemic" it was important to maintain the "extra layer of surveillance" to keep an eye out for the emergence of new variants abroad. Everyone aged five and over (11 and over in Scotland) must still take a lateral flow or PCR test within 48 hours of arrival. Well, that all makes perfect sense, NOT !!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Where I would differ is if to protect a single child you had to permanently restrict everyone else in society, that is a step too far. That's the logic we're using at the moment. The fact that masks don't actually do much is an additional bug bear. Yeah, wer in agreement. It can be both. And thats the distinction folk have unconsiciously made and accepted their entire lives, yet seem to have completely fucking deleted as far as this one particular virus goes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 The only flights I’ve taken in the last couple of years have been Glasgow to London ond back on British Airways. On two separate trips. On both trips, my Sturgeon-approved exemption card was respected at both airports and on all four BA flights. Not a word from anyone. Hopefully that continues to be the case with British Airways at least. Everyone took their feckin’ masks off anyway, as for most of the hop up and down, the majority of time on board the Glasgow - London flight involves making a coffee or other drink last 45 mins. Hopefully the day where this facemask shite is booted to fcuk is at least in sight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 This has probably been debated a million times. But if it's safe enough to go into school for classes, why wouldn't it be safe to go into exam halls which are basically socially distanced anyway? "Aggressive new variant" made me chuckle too. Good wording. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 4 hours ago, TheScarf said: I don't think we'll lose indoor mandatory face masks while Sturgeon is FM. What an eccentric prediction. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherchance Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, oaksoft said: What's particularly galling is hearing the pro-lockdown fanatics telling the rest of us that our attitude is selfish and that we clearly want to prune the herd. These entitled self-centred buffoons have actually convinced themselves that the rest of us don't have children or CV/CEV family members ourselves. They've wrapped a medical issue up in a completely inappropriate moralistic blanket and everything they see is through that prism. To them (and there's plenty of them on this forum), I'd reiterate the following. There is no moral issue here. Everyone is selfish. It's just that those people have deluded themselves into genuinely believing that their selfishness is somehow OK but that everyone else's selfishness is utterly deplorable. I can't begin to imagine what sort of upbringing allows people to be this deluded. I can only imagine what it must be like to live with, socialise with or work with this type of person. They must be completely insufferable. It’s child like thinking - the world must be divided into goodies and baddies. From my experience, they’re every bit as insufferable as you suggest. The easiest comparison is with religious fundamentalists who live by strict principles and whom any disagreement, challenge or difference in behaviour must be immediately scorned. Important to remember that with all moralising, there’s a double standard usually very close to the surface. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 My wee cancer pals in England are all shit scared of masks being dropped. The way some of them talk about how much they have restricted their lives in the last 2 years is utterly depressing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 4 hours ago, oaksoft said: After 2 years of dependency on the state for "protection" ... Nasty little subtext. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 24 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: What an eccentric prediction. Very few people, if any, care about anything you have to say, on any matter. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Very few people, if any, care about anything you have to say, on any matter. That's not really the case you know. Your prediction is a bit daft in truth. Obviously, Sturgeon could in theory cease to be FM at any point by various means. However, she'll probably remain in place for a while yet. Face masks won't remain compulsory for much longer. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Just now, Monkey Tennis said: That's not really the case you know. Your prediction is a bit daft in truth. Obviously, Sturgeon could in theory cease to be FM at any point by various means. However, she'll probably remain in place for a while yet. Face masks won't remain compulsory for much longer. I would say yours is both daft and extremely naive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheScarf said: I would say yours is both daft and extremely naive. Yes, you probably would. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, oaksoft said: To them (and there's plenty of them on this forum), I'd reiterate the following. There is no moral issue here. Everyone is selfish. It's just that those people have deluded themselves into genuinely believing that their selfishness is somehow OK but that everyone else's selfishness is utterly deplorable. I can't begin to imagine what sort of upbringing allows people to be this deluded. I can only imagine what it must be like to live with, socialise with or work with this type of person. They must be completely insufferable. Who are these utterly dreadful sounding types, subjected to unfathomable upbringings, of whom there are plenty on this very forum? We must be told. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Michael W said: Sadly, this never went away and I imagine it won't for a while. I'd expect it to once more places in Europe and the US bin it off. The Scandinavians did for a couple of months in late summer/early autumn. In English airports at present I imagine it won't be an issue until you're boarding. Also, let's not forget it's okay to lower your mask to eat and drink on flights. Hilarious. 1 hour ago, Jan Vojáček said: This has probably been debated a million times. But if it's safe enough to go into school for classes, why wouldn't it be safe to go into exam halls which are basically socially distanced anyway? "Aggressive new variant" made me chuckle too. Good wording. State of the c**t. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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