Thom & Gerry Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 7 hours ago, Countryman said: The only thing that is iteresting about league 2 (bottom spfl league) scottish football is who will be relegated from it, lose that, lose peoples interest. Lose peoples interest, lose finance. Lose finance........ Much the same as the SPL then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samsonite Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 The L2 teams spouting a 14-14-14 reconstruction are using the very convenient excuse of the potential loss of revenue by adding 2 new clubs, in reality most are scared of the increased standard of teams entering the league therefore increasing the likelihood of relegation in future years and is absolutely nothing to do with diluted prize money. To highlight how bad an excuse this is If you base the costs of having x2 additional teams using this years prize pool, you would need an additional *£80k (circa £40k each to Brora & Kelty, roughly what 10th in L2 received this year) each club would have earned around £2k less this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 3 hours ago, thebairns57 said: Gutted for my own club but scottish football has much more to worry about than the farce of a pyramid . who is "my own club", out of interest? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 2 hours ago, theoriginalhedge said: Given the criticism and ridicule of the SPFL from fans of the non league clubs , it really surprises me their desperation to be part of such a "shambolic" set up . What, should they set up a rival national league to feed into instead? Even by the low bar for idiocy set by all your other posts on here this one is in a class of its own. You must feel so proud. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilianlex Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 44 minutes ago, Samsonite said: The L2 teams spouting a 14-14-14 reconstruction are using the very convenient excuse of the potential loss of revenue by adding 2 new clubs, in reality most are scared of the increased standard of teams entering the league therefore increasing the likelihood of relegation in future years and is absolutely nothing to do with diluted prize money. To highlight how bad an excuse this is If you base the costs of having x2 additional teams using this years prize pool, you would need an additional *£80k (circa £40k each to Brora & Kelty, roughly what 10th in L2 received this year) each club would have earned around £2k less this season. BUT Les Gray is refusing to discuss funding as part of reconstruction so league 2 clubs are left thinking it will be left to them to pay for 2 more Clubs and they are probably right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 BUT Les Gray is refusing to discuss funding as part of reconstruction so league 2 clubs are left thinking it will be left to them to pay for 2 more Clubs and they are probably right.Then they can just vote against it instead of proposing their own protectionist nonsense and claiming it's for the greater good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom & Gerry Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 What greater good? They make no secret of the fact they are looking after themselves. If they don’t get financial guarantees they will undoubtedly vote against any proposal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, virginton said: What, should they set up a rival national league to feed into instead? Even by the low bar for idiocy set by all your other posts on here this one is in a class of its own. You must feel so proud. Thanks . Means a lot to me coming from one so righteous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC THE KNIFE Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 LOTS OF SPFL TEAMS MAYBE GETTING FINANCIAL POINTS DEDUCTIONS COME JAN 2021 FOR FINANCIAL PROBLEMS UNDER SPFL RULES 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the tin man Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 What a statement kelty willing to give up any league money for the first year superb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true fan Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) Simple question - why is it essential that we restructure the leagues now? We already have chaos in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic, so is the only solution more chaos and acrimony? options of ending premier league like the others or playing it out. without any playoffs it's one up, one down. option of no promotion, no relegation exists - maybe not popular I guess but why must we have reconstruction right now? If folk want to talk about it in next couple of years by all means do so. Personally I'd just leave it as it is but I can see arguments for and against - leagues of 10 mean playing same teams over and over, not much variety in fixtures but there isn't a massive spread of ability top to bottom - some spread obviously but not absolutely massive. Positives include playoff structure meaning very few dead rubbers late in the season. am I missing something? Am the only one thinking this way? I don't understand the rush and as said above there is going to be tons of ill feeling that we could all do without at this difficult time Edited April 28, 2020 by true fan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Brazilianlex said: BUT Les Gray is refusing to discuss funding as part of reconstruction so league 2 clubs are left thinking it will be left to them to pay for 2 more Clubs and they are probably right. It's almost like he's not really trying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, the tin man said: What a statement kelty willing to give up any league money for the first year superb Rich club trying to buy their way into the league shocker. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 40 minutes ago, true fan said: am I missing something? Am the only one thinking this way? I don't understand the rush and as said above there is going to be tons of ill feeling that we could all do without at this difficult time The Premier League needs a strong Hearts and Mrs Budge has threatened a tantrum. Apparently we need a strong Hearts. No lofty principles, just sheer self-intetest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williebraveheart Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 6 hours ago, tamthebam said: I wasn't particularly bothered by 14-14-14 but then I remember we'd have to play Clyde again... Maximum points, though, providing they are still in existence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverarover Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Rich club trying to buy their way into the league shocker.Nothing wrong with that. I think it's absolutely disgusting that clubs are voting to keep thenselves safe knowing fine well that the club looking to get into the league will end up near the top of the table. I'm sorry but if I was the person putting money into Kelty I would be taking serious legal action if no opportunity was given to enter at least a play off. It stinks to the core. For Edinburgh City to vote for this is the ultimate f**k you to the lower leagues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilianlex Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 30 minutes ago, foreverarover said: 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Rich club trying to buy their way into the league shocker. Nothing wrong with that. I think it's absolutely disgusting that clubs are voting to keep thenselves safe knowing fine well that the club looking to get into the league will end up near the top of the table. I'm sorry but if I was the person putting money into Kelty I would be taking serious legal action if no opportunity was given to enter at least a play off. It stinks to the core. For Edinburgh City to vote for this is the ultimate f**k you to the lower leagues. Legal action ?..? That’s a bit disrespectful to Brora and Brechin, both of whom Kelty would have to beat to get into league 2. Does that also mean that Bonnyrigg can sue the Lowland League given they were only 6 points behind with a game in hand. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Burton Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Maximum points, though, providing they are still in existence.Only if we play ineligible players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 8 hours ago, haufdaft said: Do Cove Rangers and Edinburgh City support suspension of promotion from the HL or the LL? I don't know tbh City did vote against ending the season so they might favour letting kelty or brora in but I'm not party to the board's thoughts. Would rather have kelty in- we've a decent record against them in friendlies! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, foreverarover said: 3 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Rich club trying to buy their way into the league shocker. Nothing wrong with that. I think it's absolutely disgusting that clubs are voting to keep thenselves safe knowing fine well that the club looking to get into the league will end up near the top of the table. I'm sorry but if I was the person putting money into Kelty I would be taking serious legal action if no opportunity was given to enter at least a play off. It stinks to the core. For Edinburgh City to vote for this is the ultimate f**k you to the lower leagues. Kelty weren't even guaranteed to finish top of their league, being only 6pts clear having played a game more. Forgive me if I dont feel sympathy if they miss out an apparent guaranteed promotion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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