mishtergrolsch Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Juan Pablo McFuchs. Maybe the arrival of Giancarlo Fuckthederrywankerinis? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletchers Saucy Manbun Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Smoke and Mirrors from Asghar, trying not to look desperate to potential signings. No way we are surviving half a season with farts in the wind protecting the back four. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifespud Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 And a roasting from Celtic to come. Cheers Fundee United, you never fail to amuse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 And a roasting from Celtic to come. Cheers Fundee United, you never fail to amuse. Got to admire the brass neck here. Most would keep their head down after a pumping by Ayr United on national TV, but not Dundee fans.Shameless [emoji1316] 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Jack Ross in the paper last night basically saying we don't need a defensive midfielder as long as the rest of the team ups its game when we lose the ball. And that good defensive midfielders that can pass, tackle and be creative play at top level. But if we don't have players capable of tackling in midfield at all, which is the case (maybe except Sibbald who can't get a game at the moment), then no matter how well the team reacts to losing the ball we're not going to get the ball back very easily. Sounds to me a bit like he's either not getting more dosh or he genuinely believes that we don't need a "destroyer" which is terrifying considering our midfield tends to include Harkes, Levitt and McGrath who are not known for their defensive abilities. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kempes Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 I have just read that article and I would be worried if I was a United fan. Jack seems to think his talented midfielders can keep possession and pass teams off the pitch. It doesn’t work like that unless you have the best players in the world. Possession stats mean nothing. In fact, as St Mirren are showing, sometimes the more your opponents have the ball, the better. Good transitions, or breakaways, lead to goals, even if you only have 25% to 35% possession. Teams will let United keep possession as they don’t do much with the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Kempes said: I have just read that article and I would be worried if I was a United fan. Jack seems to think his talented midfielders can keep possession and pass teams off the pitch. It doesn’t work like that unless you have the best players in the world. Possession stats mean nothing. In fact, as St Mirren are showing, sometimes the more your opponents have the ball, the better. Good transitions, or breakaways, lead to goals, even if you only have 25% to 35% possession. Teams will let United keep possession as they don’t do much with the ball. Suggesting that top teams, who you'd expect are managed by better tacticians, play defensive midfielders but teams at lower levels dont need defensive midfielders if the rest of the team try harder seems jarring to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, mishtergrolsch said: Suggesting that top teams, who you'd expect are managed by better tacticians, play defensive midfielders but teams at lower levels dont need defensive midfielders if the rest of the team try harder seems jarring to me. Exactly. Busquets was a baller, but his first job in that Barca team was to break up the opposition play, and get it to Xavi or Iniesta 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: Exactly. Busquets was a baller, but his first job in that Barca team was to break up the opposition play, and get it to Xavi or Iniesta Yes getting rid of Butcher was a mistake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, mishtergrolsch said: Jack Ross in the paper last night basically saying we don't need a defensive midfielder as long as the rest of the team ups its game when we lose the ball. And that good defensive midfielders that can pass, tackle and be creative play at top level. But if we don't have players capable of tackling in midfield at all, which is the case (maybe except Sibbald who can't get a game at the moment), then no matter how well the team reacts to losing the ball we're not going to get the ball back very easily. Sounds to me a bit like he's either not getting more dosh or he genuinely believes that we don't need a "destroyer" which is terrifying considering our midfield tends to include Harkes, Levitt and McGrath who are not known for their defensive abilities. While you're correct to say McGrath wasn't known for his defensive abilities, his workrate always did stand out for us. He was a phenomenally hard working player and always tracked back diligently. He wasn't always picked as a number 10 but his effort was always beyond reproach. It was odd seeing him being so anonymous last weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 hour ago, mishtergrolsch said: Jack Ross in the paper last night basically saying we don't need a defensive midfielder as long as the rest of the team ups its game when we lose the ball. And that good defensive midfielders that can pass, tackle and be creative play at top level. But if we don't have players capable of tackling in midfield at all, which is the case (maybe except Sibbald who can't get a game at the moment), then no matter how well the team reacts to losing the ball we're not going to get the ball back very easily. Sounds to me a bit like he's either not getting more dosh or he genuinely believes that we don't need a "destroyer" which is terrifying considering our midfield tends to include Harkes, Levitt and McGrath who are not known for their defensive abilities. We need a good defensive midfielder in the Fuchs/Butcher mould. If Ross cannot see that then he’s a fucking idiot and the wrong guy for the job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinkle Posted August 28, 2022 Author Share Posted August 28, 2022 Gonna play a whole season without a recognised defensive midfielder? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabFC Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, mishtergrolsch said: Jack Ross in the paper last night basically saying we don't need a defensive midfielder as long as the rest of the team ups its game when we lose the ball. I hope to God he doesn’t believe that. Every top team needs a midfielder whose first thought is how to smell danger. This week Mulgrew is out and Smith is in. Just buy a goddamn defensive midfielder - Christ, bring McDonald back if yer desperate! Edited August 28, 2022 by ArabFC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Coventry Saint said: While you're correct to say McGrath wasn't known for his defensive abilities, his workrate always did stand out for us. He was a phenomenally hard working player and always tracked back diligently. He wasn't always picked as a number 10 but his effort was always beyond reproach. It was odd seeing him being so anonymous last weekend. Aye but hard working, in football terms, dosent necessarily mean good or productive. It usually equates to "running about alot" for the majority, like Harkes. We need someone who can win the ball and move it on. Like, dare I say it, Gomis, Buaben, Flood, Rankin or Paton did in previous and far more successful eras. I was pretty happy when we appointed Ross and im still on the 'decent manager' side but im really starting to worry about him and some of the shite he's gibbered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Oh dearie me. Thank you. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said: Oh dearie me. Thank you. Shocking post, unless it significantly affects Saints league position, like a matter of relegation, I want every other team to beat the OF. Expelled from the Diddy Alliance! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Get this idiot so far to f**k. Beg borrow and steal to get O'Neill in and sign a DM. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just a few short weeks ago, I was in a bit of despair as it was rumoured that Utd were about to sign Alex Gogic to cap off some half decent business on paper. Fast forward and Alex Gogic was exactly what they needed in the middle. They are as soft as shite! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) I prefer one of them over the other but both are good. ETA Posted too soon. I thought Ross would have stopped the rot at five given how good a manager he is. Apologies. Edited August 28, 2022 by Shadow Play 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Any time you get beat by more than 5 the manager should have to resign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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