BFTD Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Surely, surely nobody's going to deface the lion. Fucking savages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Parler could be a good thing if the gimps move to it and away from Twitter. Can we have another one for the fannies in the left as well so I don’t see another Karen losing her shit in a supermarket? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 On 26/06/2020 at 15:11, pandarilla said: Very rarely is a sledgehammer the best tool, hence the saying. I have zero tolerance for loud mouths who spout racism, anywhere. They need challenged, and they deserve whatever consequences they get. But is there not a danger of the tactic of outing racists is so blunt and harsh that those people who are genuinely not that bright and could swing either way - are more likely to support the loud mouth racist types? I'm genuinely torn on this and concede that your more simplistic zero tolerance approach might be the best way. It's difficult to make this case and like i say, I'm open to being persuaded, but surely there are different gradients of racist folk, from pure evil fuckers all the way to folk who do down know it's not right but still laugh or even share racist jokes. I know whenever you start saying or sharing racist stuff then that makes you racist. But I'd like to see more attempts to convert the less bright aspects of our society to the good guy side, rather than dark side (so to speak). It obviously does f go on- and the blm debate in the media usually helps with that. It's a bit like trying to rehabilitate wee neds who get into criminal behaviour when they're young. It's much better for all of us if we can try to turn them into functioning members of the society rather than just going for the easier option of punishing them harshly (although i do understand there are big issues with that analogy). I agree with you to an extent here. I think there is a big difference between racism due to ignorance (your average person in a small town in Scotland who has barely ever met a black person and hasn't ever thought about the topic) versus racism which is cynical and calculated (eg Farage, Johnson, Hopkins). If the latter don't have a platform then you get many few of the former. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 7 hours ago, milhouse said: Is there a good reason why analysis of people arrested/convicted based on race needs to be done at all? Is it relevant. Does it achieve anything useful? Stopping the police being racist thuggish morons perhaps? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 4 hours ago, BigFatTabbyDave said: Surely, surely nobody's going to deface the lion. Fucking savages. You never know, some yank dentist cnut might shoot it and put the photo on social media 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 19 hours ago, milhouse said: Is there a good reason why analysis of people arrested/convicted based on race needs to be done at all? Is it relevant. Does it achieve anything useful? There's pretty much no good reason to not have as much data on stuff like this as possible. What if ethnic minorities were being imprisoned at far higher rates than the rate at which they committed crimes? Without collecting that data, you'd never know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Gordon EF said: There's pretty much no good reason to not have as much data on stuff like this as possible. What if ethnic minorities were being imprisoned at far higher rates than the rate at which they committed crimes? Without collecting that data, you'd never know. But if they weren't committing crimes, they wouldn't be in jail... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Jacksgranda said: But if they weren't committing crimes, they wouldn't be in jail... Mmm hmm. But if 80% of prisoners were black and black people only committed 10% of crimes. That would be something worth knowing and investigating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 But if they weren't committing crimes, they wouldn't be in jail...Unless you think there's something about black people that makes them commit more crimes then you're on to a dangerous path here.The structural racism exists in housing policies, education, employment figures etc.Think about what you're suggesting... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: Mmm hmm. But if 80% of prisoners were black and black people only committed 10% of crimes. That would be something worth knowing and investigating. Maybe they're the only ones who get caught... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 minute ago, pandarilla said: Unless you think there's something about black people that makes them commit more crimes then you're on to a dangerous path here. The structural racism exists in housing policies, education, employment figures etc. Think about what you're suggesting... Think about what you quoted... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Jacksgranda said: Maybe they're the only ones who get caught... Yep. And that would be worth knowing if it was true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Think about what you quoted...You seem to be suggesting that the problem is that black people are commiting crime? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Two posters seem to have got out of the very serious side of the bed this morning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Two posters seem to have got out of the very serious side of the bed this morning.Is that the 'just joking' defence? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, pandarilla said: 13 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: Two posters seem to have got out of the very serious side of the bed this morning. Is that the 'just joking' defence? You must be a bundle of laughs on a night out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Surely, surely nobody's going to deface the lion. Fucking savages.Antelope lives matter 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 More than wildebeest? That's a bit animalist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: More than wildebeest? That's a bit animalist. What's the difference between a buffalo and a bison You can't wash your face in a buffalo I put the coat in the bin to save some time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: You must be a bundle of laughs on a night out. Given the quality of your attempted joke, I’d suggest the same to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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