South_Pride Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, jimbaxters said: No, you’ll need to explain why there are 9 teams in red please. Up to 9 can be relegated. If a team is relegated from the SPFL then two go down from the Lowland league, if they are both west based and If the winners of the West of Scotland league are not promoted to the Lowland league then 9 go to make it 16 for next season. LL club 17 LL club 18 Auchinleck Pollok Clydebank Kilwinning Darvel Hurlford Rutherglen Beith Irvine Meadow Troon Benburb Conference A Winners Conference B Winners Conference C Winners Although in reality the lowest placed West based Lowland League Teams are Cumbernauld Colts (8 points from safety) and Broomhill (14 points from safety). So it’s an utter long shot. Vale of Leithen look doomed already. Rob Roy and Cumnock in 12th and 13th places would be all but safe and Glenafton would survive if the Champions get promoted. Edited November 20, 2021 by South_Pride 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, South_Pride said: Up to 9 can be relegated. If a team is relegated from the SPFL then two go down from the Lowland league, if they are both west based and If the winners of the West of Scotland league are not promoted to the Lowland league then 9 go to make it 16 for next season. Although in reality the lowest placed West based Lowland League Teams are Cumbernauld Colts (8 points from safety) and Broomhill (14 points from safety). So it’s an utter long shot. Vale of Leithen look doomed already. Rob Roy and Cumnock in 12th and 13th places would be all but safe and Glenafton would survive if the Champions get promoted. If a team is relegated from the SPFL by thee Highland League winners. Broomhill are an east-based team for the purposes of relegation, so it would need to be both Colts and Caley Braves finishing in the bottom two. Which will soon become mathematically impossible anyway as Braves are effectively 27 points ahead with 14 games remaining for the winless Vale of Leithen. Edited November 20, 2021 by Ginaro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBo10 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Anyone know the Hurlford score today and also anyone know what happened during the game where an apparent rammy kicked off? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South_Pride Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, Ginaro said: If a team is relegated from the SPFL by thee Highland League winners. Broomhill are an east-based team for the purposes of relegation, so it would need to be both Colts and Caley Braves finishing in the bottom two. Which will soon become mathematically impossible anyway as Braves are effectively 27 points ahead with 14 games remaining for the winless Vale of Leithen. I triple read my post to make sure I included everything and still missed it needing to be the HL winners! You have to love that a club that used to literally have “Glasgow” in its name counts as an EoS club 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 50 minutes ago, South_Pride said: I triple read my post to make sure I included everything and still missed it needing to be the HL winners! You have to love that a club that used to literally have “Glasgow” in its name counts as an EoS club They’re about as much a west side as Wick are Lowland league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rutherglen glencairn Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Highlights of Glencairn v Cumnock https://youtu.be/c5uJ7jmhjuo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 9 hours ago, South_Pride said: Up to 9 can be relegated. If a team is relegated from the SPFL then two go down from the Lowland league, if they are both west based and If the winners of the West of Scotland league are not promoted to the Lowland league then 9 go to make it 16 for next season. LL club 17 LL club 18 Auchinleck Pollok Clydebank Kilwinning Darvel Hurlford Rutherglen Beith Irvine Meadow Troon Benburb Conference A Winners Conference B Winners Conference C Winners Although in reality the lowest placed West based Lowland League Teams are Cumbernauld Colts (8 points from safety) and Broomhill (14 points from safety). So it’s an utter long shot. Vale of Leithen look doomed already. Rob Roy and Cumnock in 12th and 13th places would be all but safe and Glenafton would survive if the Champions get promoted. 8 hours ago, Ginaro said: If a team is relegated from the SPFL by thee Highland League winners. Broomhill are an east-based team for the purposes of relegation, so it would need to be both Colts and Caley Braves finishing in the bottom two. Which will soon become mathematically impossible anyway as Braves are effectively 27 points ahead with 14 games remaining for the winless Vale of Leithen. Thanks for the explanation both of you. So based on the current standings, is it likely to be six or seven relegated? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 54 minutes ago, jimbaxters said: Thanks for the explanation both of you. So based on the current standings, is it likely to be six or seven relegated? West Premier champion wins promotion = 6. West Premier champion fails to be promoted = 7. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Having seen Meadow v Penicuik and Musselburgh this season if the West League winner turns up and at full strength for the play off they should win and be promoted. But if ends up one game play off away to top East team then could see an upset. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 11 hours ago, jimbaxters said: No, you’ll need to explain why there are 9 teams in red please. I love seeing you kicking off about league tables. Wish the guy that used to do that weird Junior one would get his finger out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, Shannon said: Having seen Meadow v Penicuik and Musselburgh this season if the West League winner turns up and at full strength for the play off they should win and be promoted. But if ends up one game play off away to top East team then could see an upset. It has the potential to be a crapshoot. You don't necessarily need to win, just not lose. If the game ends in a draw it would go to penalties to give a team an extra point. As decisive as the WoS v. EoS games will be, the SoS champion has the potential to be a real spoiler. As they'd be playing defensively to avoid a heavy defeat and could take a game to penalties. Hopefully it will be the only season quite like this one with the LL seeing sense and increasing promotion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South_Pride Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 40 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: It has the potential to be a crapshoot. You don't necessarily need to win, just not lose. If the game ends in a draw it would go to penalties to give a team an extra point. As decisive as the WoS v. EoS games will be, the SoS champion has the potential to be a real spoiler. As they'd be playing defensively to avoid a heavy defeat and could take a game to penalties. Hopefully it will be the only season quite like this one with the LL seeing sense and increasing promotion. Correct, if the Lowland League want to harp on about getting an automatic or more promotion places to the SPFL then they need to get the house in order first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 https://wosfl.co.uk/a-guide-to-promotion-and-relegation-season-2021-22/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Phew glad that's sorted out, was worried we'd still be having discussions in May and June. Quicker all the league's get a regular 16,18, or whatever the better. Simply put, you're bottom, rubbish all season, get down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theesel1994 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I wonder what would happen in this hypothetical situation. Auchinleck win their next two Phase 1 games so would be top of the League. Their form dips and Pollok overtake them. After 32 games Pollok "win" the League but then the League is halted because of a lockdown. The rules state you go back to the standings at the end of Phase 1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepiyo Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Best win our two phase one games then lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 I wonder what would happen in this hypothetical situation. Auchinleck win their next two Phase 1 games so would be top of the League. Their form dips and Pollok overtake them. After 32 games Pollok "win" the League but then the League is halted because of a lockdown. The rules state you go back to the standings at the end of Phase 1.In that scenario, if the season couldn't be played to a finish, Auchinleck would be champions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 47 minutes ago, glensmad said: In that scenario, if the season couldn't be played to a finish, Auchinleck would be champions. Is that definite? I've read the opposite on here from the guy who the does fixtures. Might be crossed wires on my part. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 If the season has to finish before all teams have played all games, then the final Phase 1 tables will be the final season tables. 100%. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Is that the ruling ? Makes the first phase all important then, is this all rather than PPG and other nonsense ? Doesn't make the inability to finish the season worth thinking about. Guessing that you don't need to have played a % of games either then,fingers crossed that the season gets completed ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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