Bishop Briggs Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 2 hours ago, David W said: Hodgson could be in charge of any team from Man City to Sheffield United and they'd have finished about 12th this season. And every season. Hodgson has done very well on a very limited budget at Palace. His playing career was mediocre to put it mildly. Yet, overall, he's had a successful career as a manager at club and international level. Woy now looks totally knackered and I wish him a happy and healthy retirement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 f**k knows how Werner has managed not to header that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Just now, peasy23 said: f**k knows how Werner has managed not to header that. The Chelsea fans complaining about VAR because their centre forward doesn't know how to stay onside or head a ball needs injected straight into my veins 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Got to love a VAR or two with the whinging Chelsea fans back in-situ! BOOOOOOOO! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, peasy23 said: f**k knows how Werner has managed not to header that. It is a flick on and he has pressure on his back. It isn't like he watched the ball come in a fluffed it it is just a reaction and it seemed like the ball just died on him. The way he celebrated though. the guy must be supremely thick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 22 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: I'm probably in the minority (or I'm Mike Dean), but I didn't think that was a penalty. Werner didn't make any contact with the ball or attempt to play it. He basically stepped across Tielemans as Tielemans tried to play it. I'm more than happy for someone to explain to me why I'm wrong though. Werner is clearly in front and in position to control the ball. There are sometimes close calls where it is arguable a forward has fouled a defender attempting to clear the ball but to me it was clear cut that Tielemans control wasn't good enough and he fouled Werner. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Werner is clearly in front and in position to control the ball. There are sometimes close calls where it is arguable a forward has fouled a defender attempting to clear the ball but to me it was clear cut that Tielemans control wasn't good enough and he fouled Werner. He didn't control the ball though. He puts his leg across the line that Tielemans is kicking through, and actually misses the ball before Tielemans makes contact 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Just now, Mark Connolly said: He didn't control the ball though. He puts his leg across the line that Tielemans is kicking through, and actually misses the ball before Tielemans makes contact But he wasn't making a tackle or sliding. Werner was on his feet with the ball directly in front of him. he didn't touch the ball because he was stopped by being kicked. Are you arguing that there should be a period of time where a player going to kick a ball should not be interfered with (like a keeper kicking the ball from their hands)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 He didn't control the ball though. He puts his leg across the line that Tielemans is kicking through, and actually misses the ball before Tielemans makes contactI don’t see how that matters? Tielemans does not have control of the ball and kicks Werner in the heel. At the time of the contact, of the two of them, the player most likely to have possession is Werner, he gets his body in between the opponent and the ball and then is clearly fouled.Cannot understand how VAR didn’t give a penalty. Absolutely bizarre decision. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Werner is clearly in front and in position to control the ball. There are sometimes close calls where it is arguable a forward has fouled a defender attempting to clear the ball but to me it was clear cut that Tielemans control wasn't good enough and he fouled Werner. Werner nips round him from the side whilst Tielemans is in the action of kicking the ball. Tielemans does have control of the ball. It’s not that there should be time where the player isn’t interfered with but more that if the player is simply in the process of kicking the ball away, it should not be a foul. Edited May 18, 2021 by Jambomo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Leeds by the way [emoji7] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jambomo said: Werner nips round him from the side whilst Tielemans is in the action of kicking the ball. Tielemans does have control of the ball. It’s not that there should be time where the player isn’t interfered with but more that if the player is simply in the process of kicking the ball away, it should not be a foul. Werner had his full body in front, he hadn't just dangled a leg. Werner had control. Edited May 18, 2021 by Jim McLean's Ghost 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, J_Stewart said: I don’t see how that matters? Tielemans does not have control of the ball and kicks Werner in the heel. At the time of the contact, of the two of them, the player most likely to have possession is Werner, he gets his body in between the opponent and the ball and then is clearly fouled. Cannot understand how VAR didn’t give a penalty. Absolutely bizarre decision. My argument would be that he causes the contact. He doesn't attempt to play the ball, he just steps across someone who is in possession and attempting to play the ball. He may be attempting to let it run across his body, but he is definitely trying to cause contact. Had he touched the ball with his left foot or actually got possession before the contact was made, then I'd agree it's a stonewaller. I can see why it could be a penalty, and why people would argue for it, but to me what he has done is not much different to a stiker hanging a leg out running through on goal hoping to catch a defender or keeper. Again, I'm happy to be corrected if I have got this totally wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfCutNinja Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Werner had his full body in front, he hadn't just dangled a leg. Werner had control. Werner couldn't control his own bladder tbf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Not a lot of chat about Man Utd's goal being offside....even if it was a stunning finish. Fernandes doesn't touch the ball 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 BTW I'm also delighted he didn't get the penalty based on the way he celebrated when he knew he had punched it in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 The Chelsea fans complaining about VAR because their centre forward doesn't know how to stay onside or head a ball needs injected straight into my veins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Werner had his full body in front, he hadn't just dangled a leg. Werner had control. Werner didn’t have control, he just steps across as Tielemans is already mid-kick of the ball. I mean, I’ve seen them given but I don’t think that a foul or a pen should be given because the player is simply kicking the ball and the player puts himself in the way of it. Similar to the rescinding of Balbeuna’s red when he got sent off for catching a player mid-kick. Edited May 18, 2021 by Jambomo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, peasy23 said: That is fucking glorious 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Now that is a penalty. And a fucking stupid one from Leicester's point of view 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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