Caledonian1 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 23/09/2022 at 21:16, Clown Job said: How these people get into a position of power is beyond me This is just a mis-understanding DRoss probalby mean to say that Kwatengs tax cuts would turbo-charge his early flight back from Washington. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/23047554.douglas-ross-says-thinks-liz-truss-will-win-next-general-election/ Oh Dougie… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Does Lettucehead Liz even know of Dross's existence ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Lickspittle is the word that comes to mind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 IIRC correctly, dross is what is left at the bottom of a sack of coal. She'll probably want him to get fracked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Will Dross be following The Blurt into the unelected, £312 per diem chamber, I wonder ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Salt n Vinegar said: IIRC correctly, dross is what is left at the bottom of a sack of coal. She'll probably want him to get fracked. It's also the term for the residue from smoking opium, I have included an old photo of Douglas with some fellow young Conservatives. Edited October 14, 2022 by btb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, btb said: It's also the term for the residue from smoking opium, I have included an old photo of Douglas with some fellow young Conservatives. I assume he’s the slave serving the opium on the silver tray? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Antlion said: I assume he’s the slave serving the opium on the silver tray? No that's Paul Whitehouse from the early days of his career when he was between roles. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Douglas Ross is basically Grima Wormtongue in a suit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 13 hours ago, Day of the Lords said: Douglas Ross is basically Grima Wormtongue in a suit. Nah, Theoden King said that Grima was once a man. Dross has never been a man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 41 minutes ago, Clown Job said: Linesman backs children's author on complicated and sensitive debate that requires an intellectual capacity their chosen careers don't require. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 1 hour ago, williemillersmoustache said: Linesman backs children's author on complicated and sensitive debate that requires an intellectual capacity their chosen careers don't require. He probably just likes the bit in her Times diatribe where she says "It is dangerous to assert that any category of people deserves a blanket presumption of innocence." Life sentence if you're caught within 10 yards of a clothespeg, dreams Dougie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Presumably JK Rowling and Dougie are taking full responsibility for the abuse Trans people are getting? Blaming a woman for male violence against women doesn't seem particularly feminist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, 101 said: Presumably JK Rowling and Dougie are taking full responsibility for the abuse Trans people are getting? Blaming a woman for male violence against women doesn't seem particularly feminist. No, of course they’re not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Boo Khaki Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, 101 said: Presumably JK Rowling and Dougie are taking full responsibility for the abuse Trans people are getting? Blaming a woman for male violence against women doesn't seem particularly feminist. I've never witnessed a group level the degree of misogynistic bile at NS that regularly comes from GC 'feminists'. What I find doubly odd about them is they choose to name their groups things like 'Standing Up for Women', 'Let Women Speak', 'Women Won't Wheesht' and so on, and yet every single time I've seen a biological woman express any contrarian view to their line, they are invariably told to sit down, stop speaking, and wheesht. I've alluded to this before, but I don't think there is a single more hypocritical, cossetted, and myopic group of individuals than gender critical feminists. They clearly couldn't give less of a f**k about the concerns of any woman who doesn't hail from their own middle-class, middle-aged, white demographic, if those concerns are not primarily about gender theory and transgenderism. In their minds women who vote SNP are traitors to their sex because of the SNP's policy of GRC reform, yet they can not comprehend how another woman might view economic policy as the most important factor in deciding what matters most in determining how politics impact upon women. If I'm being uncharitable I'd suggest that's because GC feminists are, in the main, fortunate to hail from a demographic where they can afford to obsess over single issues rather than worry about how to feed and clothe themselves and their children. This is it in a nutshell for me. I think that there are a huge number of feminists out there who view the single issue GC lot as nothing more than a delusional, privileged, exclusionary mob, and I can completely understand why they are off-putting even before you question whether or not they are really just transphobes hiding behind a veneer of 'legitimate concerns'. I'm also at a loss as to how they can continue to insist that GC views are 'the norm', and that the SNP are pressing ahead with GRC reform against the wishes of the general population. It's self-evident that either enough people simply don't care about this issue enough to preclude them electing SNP governments, or they are in support of the GRC reform legislation and that's part of the reason why they are voting SNP. I think the fact they keep repeating this irreconcilable contradiction is yet more evidence of the self-delusion that they are somehow the only voice of the 'majority'. When you challenge them on this their take is invariably that the issues are not well circulated or understood enough for people to realise what's going on, therefore people are widely supportive of GRC reform only because they do not fully understand the implications. I agree with them that in general the UK population is frequently ignorant and gullible, but on this particular occasion I think people generally are well aware, and they just don't buy the hyperbolic nonsense that is presented as the case against. Edited October 17, 2022 by Boo Khaki 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Boo Khaki said: I've never witnessed a group level the degree of misogynistic bile at NS that regularly comes from GC 'feminists'. What I find doubly odd about them is they choose to name their groups things like 'Standing Up for Women', 'Let Women Speak', 'Women Won't Wheesht' and so on, and yet every single time I've seen a biological woman express any contrarian view to their line, they are invariably told to sit down, stop speaking, and wheesht. I've alluded to this before, but I don't think there is a single more hypocritical, cossetted, and myopic group of individuals than gender critical feminists. They clearly couldn't give less of a f**k about the concerns of any woman who doesn't hail from their own middle-class, middle-aged, white demographic, if those concerns are not primarily about gender theory and transgenderism. In their minds women who vote SNP are traitors to their sex because of the SNP's policy of GRC reform, yet they can not comprehend how another woman might view economic policy as the most important factor in deciding what matters most in determining how politics impact upon women. If I'm being uncharitable I'd suggest that's because GC feminists are, in the main, fortunate to hail from a demographic where they can afford to obsess over single issues rather than worry about how to feed and clothe themselves and their children. This is it in a nutshell for me. I think that there are a huge number of feminists out there who view the single issue GC lot as nothing more than a delusional, privileged, exclusionary mob, and I can completely understand why they are off-putting even before you question whether or not they are really just transphobes hiding behind a veneer of 'legitimate concerns'. I'm also at a loss as to how they can continue to insist that GC views are 'the norm', and that the SNP are pressing ahead with GRC reform against the wishes of the general population. It's self-evident that either enough people simply don't care about this issue enough to preclude them electing SNP governments, or they are in support of the GRC reform legislation and that's part of the reason why they are voting SNP. I think the fact they keep repeating this irreconcilable contradiction is yet more evidence of the self-delusion that they are somehow the only voice of the 'majority'. When you challenge them on this their take is invariably that the issues are not well circulated or understood enough for people to realise what's going on, therefore people are widely supportive of GRC reform only because they do not fully understand the implications. I agree with them that in general the UK population is frequently ignorant and gullible, but on this particular occasion I think people generally are well aware, and they just don't buy the hyperbolic nonsense that is presented as the case against. A woman gave me an anti-GRC leaflet the other day (which I didn't read. It got binned) I wish I'd had the courage to follow through on the evil thought that crossed my mind to say "Of course there are also female to male transexuals. I'm glad you're protesting because I don't want some hairy legged lezza smacked to the eyeballs on testosterone sneaking into the Gents just to see ma willie. Because that's basically what you're arguing in reverse" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Has Scotland's 'political heavyweight' Tory leader slithered out from under his rock lately ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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