Monkey Tennis Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, aaa said: I've no idea where your getting this.United were getting 8-9000 in the forties just the same as the sixties.If any thing United's support dropped during Dundee's decline. Yes, but we're talking about the gates in relative terms between the sides. Everyone's gates were historically big in the post war years, but the point is that United's were well under half the size of Dundee's in the period you identify. That's the bit that changed sharply. I'm "getting this" from 'The Roar of the Crowd' by David Ross. I'd recommend it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, EpicMike said: Some of the old timers I speak to say a lot of fans used to go to both Dundee and United games, by the time the rivalry solidified and you were expected to choose one or the other both sides were fairly even. I doubt there were many defections (as in a fan completely switching allegiances), most likely it was just fans fully committing to one of the clubs. I was told by a pal's dad that the same thing happened in Edinburgh. He was a Hibs fan but would go and watch Hearts when Hibs were away. This would have been in the 1950s and 60s so he saw two decent teams. I doubt it happened in Glasgow with the big two ("Haw Brendan, I saw you at Ibrox last week!") but perhaps East End based Celts went to watch Clyde and Gers fans might have watched Thirds or Queens Park or even Benburb. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 The P&B Diddies calling we Rangers fans, Glory Hunters and Bigots is a bit of a revelation for me. January 2021 will be my 15th anniversary of posting on here and, in that decade and a half, it's the first time that the daft fuckers have got something right... -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, tamthebam said: I was told by a pal's dad that the same thing happened in Edinburgh. He was a Hibs fan but would go and watch Hearts when Hibs were away. This would have been in the 1950s and 60s so he saw two decent teams. I doubt it happened in Glasgow with the big two ("Haw Brendan, I saw you at Ibrox last week!") but perhaps East End based Celts went to watch Clyde and Gers fans might have watched Thirds or Queens Park or even Benburb. Heard similar about Airdrie and Rovers, although it couldn't have been that many as Rovers crowds never seemed that good. People would also go to their own team's reserve games. Because I went to away games I'd only get to midweek reserve games. There is certainly far fewer people like that now. Edited December 4, 2020 by Sergeant Wilson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 10 hours ago, Bairnardo said: This And this. I have known loads over the years who have this visceral hate for Falkirk. Massively overcompensating IMO. Pathetic Same up here, not so much Celtic fans but a lot of Rangers fans up here have some weird hatred for The Caley. They try to make some kind of rivalry whenever we play. They're a strange bunch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Same up here, not so much Celtic fans but a lot of Rangers fans up here have some weird hatred for The Caley. They try to make some kind of rivalry whenever we play. They're a strange bunch. Celtic fans before a game at Tannadice earlier this season: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 There's a Celtic bus from Stonehaven that get very, very excitable about showing off their flag to the away end when we visit. Not weird behaviour at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afc_blockhead Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Glory hunting says something very fundamental about the person doing it. It says they have a deep void and inadequacy within that can only temporarily disappear by associating with "success" (which they convince themselves applies to them). The behaviour of both sets of the old firm at times during a "tough run of results" tells you a lot. These people who support one of the old firm because "my dad does" , when the dad unashamedly is a glory hunter too are some of the worst. I knew a guy born and bred in Edinburgh who supported Sevco because "my dad always has". His dad was from Perth , St Johnstone happened to be his dads "wee team". Pathetic behaviour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, afc_blockhead said: Glory hunting says something very fundamental about the person doing it. It says they have a deep void and inadequacy within that can only temporarily disappear by associating with "success" (which they convince themselves applies to them). The behaviour of both sets of the old firm at times during a "tough run of results" tells you a lot. These people who support one of the old firm because "my dad does" , when the dad unashamedly is a glory hunter too are some of the worst. I knew a guy born and bred in Edinburgh who supported Sevco because "my dad always has". His dad was from Perth , St Johnstone happened to be his dads "wee team". Pathetic behaviour. Basically every Rangers and Celtic fan from Inverness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, afc_blockhead said: Glory hunting says something very fundamental about the person doing it. It says they have a deep void and inadequacy within that can only temporarily disappear by associating with "success" (which they convince themselves applies to them). The behaviour of both sets of the old firm at times during a "tough run of results" tells you a lot. These people who support one of the old firm because "my dad does" , when the dad unashamedly is a glory hunter too are some of the worst. I knew a guy born and bred in Edinburgh who supported Sevco because "my dad always has". His dad was from Perth , St Johnstone happened to be his dads "wee team". Pathetic behaviour. 4 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Basically every Rangers and Celtic fan from Inverness. You're both just jealous of all their success. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: There's a Celtic bus from Stonehaven that get very, very excitable about showing off their flag to the away end when we visit. Not weird behaviour at all. That's just everyone from Stonehaven in general. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 52 minutes ago, Szamo's_Ammo said: Celtic fans before a game at Tannadice earlier this season: Genuine LOLz at the boy with the flare there thinking he's a right wee ultra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Day of the Lords said: Genuine LOLz at the boy with the flare there thinking he's a right wee ultra Could imagine him swaggering into Kelly's Bar in Lochee showing off his banner before cheering on a team based 80 miles away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I'm more concerned with the fact that there's a guy in his 40's holding the banner too. Definitely OFTW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheScarf said: I'm more concerned with the fact that there's a guy in his 40's holding the banner too. Definitely OFTW. Bet he tells anyone who'll listen about how his dear old Dad followed the hoops. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Szamo's_Ammo said: Could imagine him swaggering into Kelly's Bar in Lochee showing off his banner before cheering on a team based 80 miles away. Aye There's loads of these wankers in Forfar as well. "Forfar's green and white!!!111" after winning a Europa league qualifier against some set of non-entities. No it's not you fucking fannies, most folk here couldn't give a shiny shite for your, or your wee "WATP" pals' shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I know I slag off Highland OF fans, but the central belt/Aberdeen-shire ones are far worse IMO, they've always had Scottish League teams on their doorstep who they choose to ignore to support a winning team 50-100 miles away. The lads my ages up here, guys in their 30's and older, didn't have a The Caley or County to go to, not in the SFL anyway. Guys in their 30's and older down there did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, TheScarf said: I know I slag off Highland OF fans, but the central belt/Aberdeen-shire ones are far worse IMO, they've always had Scottish League teams on their doorstep who they choose to ignore to support a winning team 50-100 miles away. The lads my ages up here, guys in their 30's and older, didn't have a The Caley or County to go to, not in the SFL anyway. Guys in their 30's and older down there did. They did have a Caley to go to. It’s the modern day fans who don’t have a Caley to go to.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Bet he tells anyone who'll listen about how his dear old Dad followed the hoops. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Just now, G51 said: They did have a Caley to go to. It’s the modern day fans who don’t have a Caley to go to.... They do, they merged with another club to create a superclub who wins national trophies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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