Dawson Park Boy Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, NotThePars said: And the big scandal was where he'd obtained the documents from. Seem to recall Mike Russell being all for private businesses buying up parts of the NHS? This privatisation stuff is all nonsense anyway. GP’s are private contractors. Drugs are manufactured by private companies. Equipment is supplied by private companies. If you go in to any hospital you will see most of the service personnel wearing SERCO badges - private company. The important point is that it is, has been and will be free at the point of delivery to all UK citizens. This appears to be what people want and that’s what they will get. All the political parties know that and I don’t know of any party that has a different policy. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Dawson Park Boy said: The important point is that it is, has been and will be free at the point of delivery to all UK citizens. This appears to be what people want and that’s what they will get. All the political parties know that and I don’t know of any party that has a different policy. The important point is that you're an idiot. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 39 minutes ago, NotThePars said: The important point is that you're an idiot. Love your intelligent response. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 24 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Love your intelligent response. Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/30/scandal-charge-sheet-johnson-wallpaper-lying?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other"Or maybe the real scandal lies with us, the electorate, still seduced by a tousled-hair rebel shtick and faux bonhomie that should have palled years ago. Americans got rid of their lying, self-serving, scandal-plagued charlatan 100 days ago. They did it at the first possible opportunity. Next week, polls suggest we’re poised to give ours a partial thumbs-up at the ballot box. For allowing this shameless man to keep riding high, some of the shame is on us." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/30/scandal-charge-sheet-johnson-wallpaper-lying?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other"Or maybe the real scandal lies with us, the electorate, still seduced by a tousled-hair rebel shtick and faux bonhomie that should have palled years ago. Americans got rid of their lying, self-serving, scandal-plagued charlatan 100 days ago. They did it at the first possible opportunity. Next week, polls suggest we’re poised to give ours a partial thumbs-up at the ballot box. For allowing this shameless man to keep riding high, some of the shame is on us."Has a point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Blaming the electorate famously works as an election tactic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) Everyone involved in promoting the Iraq War should've been killed and we should've kept that last resort open as a possibility for other major moments in British politics. The media landscape alone would be vastly better for one. Imagine: everyone who wrote an op-ed or voted in favour of the air strikes in Libya or Syria, dead. What a country we could have. Edited May 5, 2021 by NotThePars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Have my doubts, but if this is genuine 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 22 minutes ago, jakedee said: Have my doubts, but if this is genuine The only surprising thing about that story is that - IF it is true - anybody who has been paying attention would be in the least bit surprised. I'm not saying it's true... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Have my doubts, but if this is genuine It's there on Companies House. He's a director there alongside a few other ltds.If, of course, it is the same person! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) One bloke I used to work with had a great expression, that sums up my feelings about the 'character' of the Tory party today. It goes something like 'at a fundraising dinner with business owners, if all Tory candidates were laid end to end, nobody would be in the least bit surprised...' Edited May 5, 2021 by Salt n Vinegar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Salt n Vinegar said: One bloke I used to work with had a great expression, that sums up my feelings about the 'character' of the Tory party today. It goes something like 'at a fundraising dinner with business owners, if all Tory candidates were laid end to end, nobody would be in the least bit surprised...' Bit harsh. Dorothy Parker wasn’t in the least “blokeish”. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Patel at it again. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-ppe-lobbying-coronavirus-b1848076.html Labour is demanding an investigation into allegations that Priti Patel breached the ministerial code of conduct by lobbying fellow ministers over a PPE contract for a Tory donor and former adviser. Deputy leader Angela Rayner and shadow home secretary Nick Thomas-Symonds wrote to the cabinet secretary Simon Case asking him to investigate what they described as a “glaring and flagrant breach” of the code. Documents obtained by the Daily Mail show that the home secretary wrote to cabinet colleague Michael Gove after being contacted by a client of Samir Jassal over a £20m deal to supply personal protective equipment early in the coronavirus pandemic in April 2020. Health secretary Matt Hancock responded that the masks being offered by Pharmaceuticals Direct Ltd were “not suitable for the NHS”. But the company was later awarded a £102.7m contract for a higher-specification face-covering. PDL contacted Ms Patel for help with the cancelled £20m deal after an introduction from Mr Jassal, who previously worked as her adviser and has twice stood as a Conservative parliamentary candidate. According to the papers obtained by the Mail, Ms Patel forwarded the letter to Mr Gove and said the potential loss of the order was putting PDL under “financial pressure”. “I would be most grateful if you could review this matter urgently… and work with the company to distribute and supply these masks,” she wrote. A reply from Mr Hancock said experts agreed the KN95 mask offered by PDL was not suitable for use in the NHS, but aded that he “appreciated” the company’s efforts and had asked officials to liaise with them. In July, PDL secured a £102.7m contract to supply the superior FPP3 masks, in a deal which is now being challenged in a High Court judicial review brought by the Good Law Project campaign group. A spokesperson for Ms Patel said did nothing wrong: “The home secretary rightly followed up representations made to her about the vital supply of PPE. “During a time of national crisis failure to do so would have been a dereliction of duty.” But in their letter, Ms Rayner and Mr Thomas-Symonds said: “Given that the home secretary was introduced to PDL by her friend Mr Jassal, and the home secretary then immediately took it upon herself to lobby on PDL’s behalf, it is difficult to reach any conclusion other than that the home secretary lobbied the government on behalf of PDL as a favour to her friend, Samir Jassal. “This would represent a glaring and flagrant breach of the Ministerial Code.” They added: “The public has a right to know why the home secretary lobbied ministers on behalf of a client of Samir Jassal, her friend, former adviser and a prominent Conservative Party activist, candidate and donor. “The public also has a right to know why the home secretary was demanding that huge amounts of taxpayers’ money was wasted on face masks that the Health and Safety Executive had found to be unsafe for use by frontline NHS staff, and why in the grips of the first wave of this awful pandemic the home secretary was spending her time lobbying to help her friends get rich quick rather than focusing on her job – securing our borders against the virus and working with police to keep our communities safe. “This investigation must include not only the representations made by the home secretary on behalf of PDL in this instance, but also any further representations and any impact this or any other lobbying had on PDL being awarded a subsequent contract worth over £100m.” The code governing government ministers’ conduct states that “ministers must ensure that no conflict arises, or could reasonably be perceived to arise, between their public duties and their private interests”. The row comes months after Boris Johnson overturned the finding of his former ethics adviser that Ms Patel had breached the code by bullying staff at the Home Office, prompting the resignation of adviser Sir Alex Allan. Good Law Project director Jolyon Maugham said: “Why did Jassal, a man connected to past and present Tory PMs, ministers and peers, reach out to Priti Patel for help? “What was his role in winning the £103 million contract? What relationship did his connections with the party have to the £103 million contract won by Pharmaceuticals Direct? “These are the questions at the heart of our judicial review of this most troubling of PPE contracts.” Mr Jassal and PDL have been contacted for comment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: Patel at it again. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-ppe-lobbying-coronavirus-b1848076.html Kuennsberg hasn't come out with the usual "she was trying to arrange ppe in a time of national emergency but Labour will say she broke rules" yet. Makes me wonder whether the Pritster might be getting thrown to the wolves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, coprolite said: Kuennsberg hasn't come out with the usual "she was trying to arrange ppe in a time of national emergency but Labour will say she broke rules" yet. Makes me wonder whether the Pritster might be getting thrown to the wolves. They're more likely to just change the rules/law. Nothing is beyond these cùnts now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 22 minutes ago, HTG said: They're more likely to just change the rules/law. Nothing is beyond these cùnts now. As Nixon was said to have put it, "Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal." With a majority like BoJo has, the law could be changed before the next "Prime Minister, it's a breach of the Code again...." hits the desk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 05/05/2021 at 15:54, Salt n Vinegar said: One bloke I used to work with had a great expression, that sums up my feelings about the 'character' of the Tory party today. It goes something like 'at a fundraising dinner with business owners, if all Tory candidates were laid end to end, nobody would be in the least bit surprised...' Today? Hmm, lets see. Bob Boothby (bisexual), Tory MP, sired the PM Harold McMillan's daughter and then socialised with the Krays and involved in rent boy orgies with Reggie Kray, all covered up. John Profumo, (Minister of War), lying to the HoC that he wasn't sharing and shagging Keller along with a soviet agent at the height of the cold war. Soviet agent John Vassal working for Minister Tam Galbraith. Corrupt architect John Poulson links to Home Secretary Reginald Maudling. State Ministers Lord Lambton and Earl Jellico sex scandal with prostitutes. Cecil Parkinson fathering a child with his mistress Sara Keays. Jeffrey Archer MP and Deputy Chairman of the tories lied in court that he didn't shag a working prostitute in a libel case he started, he was eventually jailed. Tim Yeo's business dealings and his subsequent deselection. Jonathon Aitken. And there's lots more until we arrive at the latest list of sleaaze and corruption which is well documented. We laughed at Trump and the media expresses shock when government corruption is exposed in African countries but the hypocrisy is that the present government is no better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 The Cecil Parkinson thing is much worse than just fathering a child with his mistress. His daughter has severe disabilities, and he always denied being the father because his genes were too pure to produce such a child. He refused to contribute a penny, locked her out of his estate, and pulled strings at government level to try and prevent his daughter's mother from being able to access support for the raising of his child. An absolutely horrific excuse for a human being, and a poster boy for the Conservative Party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 44 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said: Today? Hmm, lets see. Bob Boothby (bisexual), Tory MP, sired the PM Harold McMillan's daughter and then socialised with the Krays and involved in rent boy orgies with Reggie Kray, all covered up. John Profumo, (Minister of War), lying to the HoC that he wasn't sharing and shagging Keller along with a soviet agent at the height of the cold war. Soviet agent John Vassal working for Minister Tam Galbraith. Corrupt architect John Poulson links to Home Secretary Reginald Maudling. State Ministers Lord Lambton and Earl Jellico sex scandal with prostitutes. Cecil Parkinson fathering a child with his mistress Sara Keays. Jeffrey Archer MP and Deputy Chairman of the tories lied in court that he didn't shag a working prostitute in a libel case he started, he was eventually jailed. Tim Yeo's business dealings and his subsequent deselection. Jonathon Aitken. And there's lots more until we arrive at the latest list of sleaaze and corruption which is well documented. We laughed at Trump and the media expresses shock when government corruption is exposed in African countries but the hypocrisy is that the present government is no better. William Hague's baseball cap 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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