Soapy FFC Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Big Rider said: Is the hard working Scottish taxpayer still subsidising HS2? I believe that the UK Govt pays for it, but Scotland gets money back via the Barnett formula for the extra money spent on an English only project. But, I'm no expert in these matters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarHibee Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Soapy FFC said: I believe that the UK Govt pays for it, but Scotland gets money back via the Barnett formula for the extra money spent on an English only project. But, I'm no expert in these matters. We get a share of the loan and the liability that comes with it. Even although we had no say over the loan being taken out in the first place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Does Scotland get HS2 consequentials? Maybe I'm thinking of another project, but wasn't there something about it being a "National" project which benefitted Scotland? (Even though it comes nowhere near here!) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Soapy FFC said: Scotland gets money back via the Barnett formula for the extra money spent on an English only project. …and zero of the subsequent return on investment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 11 hours ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Does Scotland get HS2 consequentials? Maybe I'm thinking of another project, but wasn't there something about it being a "National" project which benefitted Scotland? (Even though it comes nowhere near here!) Yes, we get approximately 10% extra in disastrous government infrastructure projects 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Does Scotland get HS2 consequentials? Maybe I'm thinking of another project, but wasn't there something about it being a "National" project which benefitted Scotland? (Even though it comes nowhere near here!) I think that it’s Wales who’re being done on that front - classified as an England and Wales project, even though none of it is in Wales. Edited July 31, 2023 by oneteaminglasgow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 50 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: I think that it’s Wales who’re being done on that front - classified as an England and Wales project, even though none of it is in Wales. It’s hard to feel sorry for the Welsh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarHibee Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I forgot they were even there tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Be very interesting to see which companies are raking in massive profits for HS2 while not actually delivering anything. And who their friends in government are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Turns out there's oil left after all. Maybe someone will ask Ian Wood to compare and contrast with the 2014 campaign. New North Sea oil and gas licences will send ‘wrecking ball’ through climate commitments | Fossil fuels | The Guardian 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Martin Geisslar didn't have to stoop so low to wind up The Prime Miniature this morning. This is just the end of the interview in which the normally syrupy Sunack got a bit querulous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 My word. Most of these utter imbeciles should be put to death. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1d7jvjzx3yo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 52 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said: My word. Most of these utter imbeciles should be put to death. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1d7jvjzx3yo Welsh Tories must be really pitiful if they are resorting to stealing Douglas Ross policies to try and win some gammon votes. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 On 31/07/2023 at 19:43, sophia said: Martin Geisslar didn't have to stoop so low to wind up The Prime Miniature this morning. This is just the end of the interview in which the normally syrupy Sunack got a bit querulous. It sounded like Sunak's Malcolm Tucker stitched up Geisslar by letting him prepare a usual ~15 plus minute interview for that time, but cutting it to 5 minutes just before Sunak went on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 11 hours ago, Alert Mongoose said: My word. Most of these utter imbeciles should be put to death. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1d7jvjzx3yo Back in the sixties a Tory candidate (might have been Enoch Powell himself) put out an election leaflet that said in essence "If you want a black man moving in next door, vote Labour." Seems some people haven't moved on since then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, GordonD said: Back in the sixties a Tory candidate (might have been Enoch Powell himself) put out an election leaflet that said in essence "If you want a black man moving in next door, vote Labour." Seems some people haven't moved on since then. It was far more racist than that! The actual quote used the N-word. It was "If you want a ****** for a neighbour, vote Labour" It wasn't Enoch Powell either, it was someone called Peter Griffiths. His campaign was successful & he was elected. Griffiths refused to disown it: “I would not condemn any man who said that,” he told the Times during his election campaign. “I regard it as a manifestation of popular feeling.” Disgusting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarHibee Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 2 hours ago, GordonD said: Back in the sixties a Tory candidate (might have been Enoch Powell himself) put out an election leaflet that said in essence "If you want a black man moving in next door, vote Labour." Seems some people haven't moved on since then. In the sixties, it was only the tories who were at it. Now Labour are also at it these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarHibee Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 2 hours ago, lichtgilphead said: It was far more racist than that! The actual quote used the N-word. It was "If you want a ****** for a neighbour, vote Labour" It wasn't Enoch Powell either, it was someone called Peter Griffiths. His campaign was successful & he was elected. Griffiths refused to disown it: “I would not condemn any man who said that,” he told the Times during his election campaign. “I regard it as a manifestation of popular feeling.” Disgusting. The most disgusting thing about it is that it worked and it would most likely work again now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapy FFC Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/aug/07/proposals-to-ease-planning-laws-in-englands-national-parks-condemned Quote It specifically cites the aim to give farmers the ability to change their agricultural buildings into houses: “We want to give farmers greater freedom to change the use of their existing buildings to residential use and support the delivery of new homes in rural communities.” I love the optimism that allowing farmers to build houses will result in homes that will benefit the locals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 They want to force Mad Nadd out, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66427982 The main gist; Conservative MP Nadine Dorries is facing a move to force her out of Parliament if she fails to attend for six months. The proposals have been put forward by senior Labour MP Sir Chris Bryant. Ms Dorries said she was standing down as the MP for Mid Bedfordshire in June but later said she would not formally resign until she got more information about why she was denied a peerage. She has not spoken in the Commons since July 2022 and last voted in April. Six months on from her last vote in Parliament would be 26 October. Under his proposals, first reported by the Financial Times, Sir Chris said a motion could be tabled in Parliament requiring an MP to attend the Commons on a certain date. If they failed to do so he said this could be considered a "contempt of Parliament", which can be punished with a suspension from the Commons. If MPs approve a suspension of 10 days or more this can trigger a by-election in the constituency, where voters have the chance to oust their local MP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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