Buckets Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 13 hours ago, Dons_1988 said: Yep. It’s why neither club should ever be let away with saying ‘we do everything within our power to eradicate sectarianism’. We all know what this was about. It’s harmless enough for them and their fans to give it the ‘who me?’ Retort. But we all know. Plenty of sports teams have visited the pope. I'm not sure the answer to sectarianism and anti-catholic sentiment from some Rangers fans or in wider Scottish society is for Celtic not to visit the pope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennie makevin Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 46 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: Except that there are hundreds of sports teams/people who visit the Pope when in Rome, it’s not an uncommon thing however the only place with an issue with it is here, Celtic aren’t exactly setting precedent here There is probably an issue with it here because in 2023 people are sick to the back teeth of two tediously vile football clubs,whose whole pointless existence appears to be predicated purely on fanning the dying embers of late 19th/early 20th century religious bigotry for financial gain, continuously playing to the basest secterian elements of their fan base. It's obvious what they're doing, it's repugnant and it has absolutely nothing in common with any individual's genuine affiliation or affection with either the papacy or the monarchy. And it is certainly an utterly irrelevant piece of Old Firm whataboutery to say 'but loads of other sportsman visit the pope' . 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 44 minutes ago, Buckets said: Plenty of sports teams have visited the pope. I'm not sure the answer to sectarianism and anti-catholic sentiment from some Rangers fans or in wider Scottish society is for Celtic not to visit the pope. Just as well I didn’t say that it was. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ooooft. Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: There would be much sucking of teeth, shaking of heads and tut tutting if Clement fetched up at the HQ of the Grand Orange Lodge of Scotland and presented the Grand Master with an autographed Rangers jersey, with his name printed on the back. Although he's probably got one already. I dunno so much. According to some we have no teeth. He’ll have the orange away top. Cert. Edited December 1, 2023 by Ooooft. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) On 30/11/2023 at 10:46, Jacksgranda said: There would be much sucking of teeth, shaking of heads and tut tutting if Clement fetched up at the HQ of the Grand Orange Lodge of Scotland and presented the Grand Master with an autographed Rangers jersey, with his name printed on the back. Although he's probably got one already. I don't like the Catholic church or the OO but are you seriously trying to compare visiting these two in terms of bigotry? I've said in another thread I would rather Celtic didn't use it for a media opportunity but that comparison is quite a stretch. I think you may have lived in NI for too long with that mentality. Edited December 1, 2023 by gannonball 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Would a more suitable equivalence in our terms not be the Moderator of the Kirk? And by the way, what a completely sad thing to have to devote a few seconds of my life to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) On 30/11/2023 at 12:23, kennie makevin said: There is probably an issue with it here because in 2023 people are sick to the back teeth of two tediously vile football clubs,whose whole pointless existence appears to be predicated purely on fanning the dying embers of late 19th/early 20th century religious bigotry for financial gain, continuously playing to the basest secterian elements of their fan base. It's obvious what they're doing, it's repugnant and it has absolutely nothing in common with any individual's genuine affiliation or affection with either the papacy or the monarchy. And it is certainly an utterly irrelevant piece of Old Firm whataboutery to say 'but loads of other sportsman visit the pope' . Then it doesn’t really matter who we visited then as your irrational hatred of Celtic will cause you to be triggered by anything we do but if you honestly think Brendan Rodgers when he knew he was going to Rome thought “I know what will rile the people and play to the basest sectarian element of our support…..I’ll take the lads to visit tha Pope. No one will care that countless sports teams do this, the people will lose their shit and the lunatics will build me a statue and that will stir up sectarian tension cause I fucking love that shit” then you are a bigger clown than I ever took you for. Don’t get me wrong I’d much rather they were on the plane back home after getting put out of Europe rather than go on a jolly to the Vatican as the result matters much much more to me however trying to denormalise a sports team visiting the Vatican and suggesting a narrative that it’s motivated by sectarianism is laughable, utterly utterly laughable. You can think it’s cringeworthy because it probably is and that would be a pretty normal way to respond Edited December 1, 2023 by Jinky67 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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superwell87 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Mon Feyenoord! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 It's John Hartson night. Oh goodie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Definitely a good few empty seats inside Fortress Parkhead tonight #TGFITW 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stressball Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Why must it always be Hartson 1 minute ago, Lex said: Definitely a good few empty seats inside Fortress Parkhead tonight #TGFITW it looks busier than I expected . Seems to mainly be the weird uefa no-go seats at the front that are empty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 It's that wonderful time of year... Christmas tree down from the loft... Away to mark the end of another glorious and entertaining Euro campaign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I expect Feyenoord to be extremely nervous - no team wants to become the fall guys here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stressball Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Nice Roddy Piper impression by the centre half on Kyogo there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peil Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, kingjoey said: It's John Hartson night. Oh goodie. Listening to him unravel really does cheer you up on a cold winters evening 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, stressball said: Seems to mainly be the weird uefa no-go seats at the front that are empty. What is that all about? Never understood why. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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