Hedgecutter Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) Anybody frequenting the GN Forum will have noticed the presence of certain individuals who consistently appear to know everything better than most, regardless of the subject being discussed. For me the Coronavirus thread is a fine example of the 'Dunning-Kruger Effect' (image below for those unaware of what I mean) / 'better-than-average effect' in action. Throw some posters some stats from the news and... well, you know the rest. So how prevalent is it on here? Are most posters guilty of it? What are the finest examples of posters walking into their own graves you remember seeing? Finally, out of curiosity, I've added an anonymous poll to ask a single (perhaps over-generalised) question, just to see if the majority of posters deem themselves to be better than average, which I'm led to believe is usually the case in wider society. I've purposely avoided a middle-of-the-road cop-out answer (and chances are you wouldn't be bang on average anyway). In the field of social psychology, illusory superiority is a condition of cognitive bias wherein a person overestimates their own qualities and abilities, in relation to the same qualities and abilities of other people. Edited July 14, 2021 by Hedgecutter 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid android Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I don't understand the question. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 This is me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Anybody frequenting the GN Forum will have noticed the presence of certain individuals who consistently appear to know everything better than most, regardless of the subject being discussed. For me the Coronavirus thread is a fine example of the 'Dunning-Kruger Effect' (image below for those unaware of what I mean) / 'better-than-average effect' in action. Throw some posters some stats from the news and... well, you know the rest. So how prevalent is it on here? Are most posters guilty of it? What are the finest examples of posters walking into their own graves you remember seeing? Finally, out of curiosity, I've added an anonymous poll to ask a single (perhaps over-generalised) question, just to see if the majority of posters deem themselves to be better than average, which I'm led to believe is usually the case in wider society. I've purposely avoided a middle-of-the-road cop-out answer (and chances are you wouldn't be bang on average anyway). In the field of social psychology, illusory superiority is a condition of cognitive bias wherein a person overestimates their own qualities and abilities, in relation to the same qualities and abilities of other people. H_B and his Anthony C Pick evidence surely has to be up there.VT absolutely rag-dolled him over that.On here via Tapatalk so I can't t see the poll - I'd place myself at the right hand part of that curve. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) My worry is your Vote. As a Statistician for the answer to be a "True Reflection" then the results should end up as 50% above Average & 50% below average. I fear if you come out with some other result then the Stats for Granny Dangers Covid prediction and the Celtic crowd in Seville would have more credence. Either that or your survey will have a load of intelligent liars (I think ?) Edited July 14, 2021 by superbigal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, superbigal said: My worry is your Vote. As a Statistician for the answer to be a "True Reflection" then the results should end up as 50% above Average & 50% below average. I fear if you come out with some other result then the Stats for Granny Dangers Covid prediction and the Celtic crowd in Seville would have more credence. Either that or your survey will have a load of intelligent liars. Is this not the point though - to see how much it deviates away from 50/50, and in which direction? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I'm just looking forward to when @GordonS and @virginton bump into each other in this thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Where on the scale is "I don't know anything about this, but I can tell that you don't either"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dunning1874 Posted July 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2021 Leave me the f**k out of this thread please. 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 A really clever poster would have waited until Sunday to get this thread on the go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 30 minutes ago, superbigal said: My worry is your Vote. As a Statistician for the answer to be a "True Reflection" then the results should end up as 50% above Average & 50% below average. I fear if you come out with some other result then the Stats for Granny Dangers Covid prediction and the Celtic crowd in Seville would have more credence. Either that or your survey will have a load of intelligent liars (I think ?) Surely it's only 50/50 if you're using a median as your average? Or if there's a normal distribution. A long tail in either direction could pull the mean either side of that. @Hedgecutter@Hedgecutter, is this the sort of thing you mean? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, coprolite said: Surely it's only 50/50 if you're using a median as your average? Or if there's a normal distribution. A long tail in either direction could pull the mean either side of that. @Hedgecutter@Hedgecutter, is this the sort of thing you mean? Ach, I suspected I'd regret the use of the word 'average'. The intention was: "do you consider yourself to be more / less intelligent than most of the posters on here". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I was thinking of clicking on "above" until I read the statisticians' posts.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Lot of nerd talk threatening to derail the thread so here’s some shots fired: there’s a coterie of posters, all definitely above 45 and balding, who’ve never read a book on the topics they pontificate about and are best described as “shooting from the hip” and “calling it like they see it” [emoji106] 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Lot of nerd talk threatening to derail the thread so here’s some shots fired: there’s a coterie of posters, all definitely above 45 and balding, who’ve never read a book on the topics they pontificate about and are best described as “shooting from the hip” and “calling it like they see it” [emoji106] Is that aimed at GD? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Can't vote as I consider myself Bang Average in terms of intelligence. I'm Above Average in humour. Below Average in getting ass. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: Ach, I suspected I'd regret the use of the word 'average'. The intention was: "do you consider yourself to be more / less intelligent than most of the posters on here". Thinking intelligently about abstract concepts, yes. Doing intelligent things, no. Emotional intelligence, don't understand the question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 How I see myself: How the rest of Pie and Bovril sees me: 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Me, debating with the P&B midwits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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