English Premier League 2021/22 Season

[8MileBU]

12 minutes ago, Meldrew said:

so wouldn't a proper manager do that at united ?

 

bin 70% ? naw just fred & mctominay.

“just Fred & McTominay” is silly talk. They’ve an abundance of dross. Those two merely scratch the surface. 

[Meldrew]

3 minutes ago, 8MileBU said:

“just Fred & McTominay” is silly talk. They’ve an abundance of dross. Those two merely scratch the surface. 

don't talk shite, get a proper coach like Ten Hag, get shot of fred and mctominay and that squad will be more than ok with a couple of midfield additions.

[Mr. Brightside]

Jenas saying Ole did a "brilliant" job. Top tier revisionism there, he fluked one result against PSG and that's about it.

[8MileBU]

49 minutes ago, Meldrew said:

don't talk shite, get a proper coach like Ten Hag, get shot of fred and mctominay and that squad will be more than ok with a couple of midfield additions.

Their best eleven practically picks itself even if Solskjaer didn’t.

With the exception of Varane, their entire first choice defence is second rate guff. What’s waiting in the wings is laughable.

In midfield, Pogba is world class if at any point he decides he can be arsed. Fernandes can’t seem to do it in the big games against the top teams. Van De Beek admittedly I haven’t seen enough of. The rest are second rate guff, whilst Mata and Matic are past their sell by date.

It’s only up front that they’re fairly well equipped. 

Edited November 22, 2021 by 8MileBU

[Crawford Bridge]

5 hours ago, senorsoupe said:

They have some good attacking players like Bruno Fernandes,

Really?

He's a massive fraud IMO. He drops a stinker anytime he plays against decent opposition.

[Theroadlesstravelled]

Sky saying Poch will take over next summer.

What are they going to do in the mean time?  Give it Carrick and write off the season after 12 games? They might as well kept Ole. He could have got them into the Europa League.

 

[accies1874]

Their best eleven practically picks itself even if Solskjaer didn’t.
With the exception of Varane, their entire first choice defence is second rate guff. What’s waiting in the wings is laughable.
In midfield, Pogba is world class if at any point he decides he can be arsed. Fernandes can’t seem to do it in the big games against the top teams. Van De Beek admittedly I haven’t seen enough of. The rest are second rate guff, whilst Mata and Matic are past their sell by date.
It’s only up front that they’re fairly well equipped. 

You're not accounting for a good manager improving some players though. Maguire, Shaw, Pogba and even McTominay have shown that they're capable of better than what they've shown this season. That doesn't necessarily mean a new manager will get the best out of them but they're not performing to their best atm and a good manager can elevate them.

[Satoshi]

To give a bit of context on Maguire cupping his hands in the Albania match, this goes back to when he was arrested for fighting with the Greek police.

His defence was that he was protecting his sister from dodgy Albanians - an easy target in Greece. No exact equivalent here in the UK but if you go back a few decades it would be saying that the suspects looked Irish-y.

I would have loved to have seen Maguire (or his party) pointing out how they can tell the difference between the Greek and Albanian language...

As an aside, any Albanian partying on a Greek island is probably very wealthy. I doubt they ever existed but if they had Maguire would have (and should have!) shat the bed before trying to fight them.

I imagine the fans were booing him because he fell back on a lazy racist stereotype to cover the fact he made an arse of himself, making life even harder for the hard working migrants who go there to work and face prejudice as it is. He's a c**t basically.

Great to see such a terrible person playing badly and making a fool of himself. Despite how awful he is, his penalty in the Euros final was actually, grudgingly, top class. Great they didn't win so it wasn't on a loop for months to come.

As for those criticising McTominay, and unfavourable comparisons to Kante and Fabinho - important to emphasize McTominay is already ahead in his career than either of those were at a similar age. Kante had just moved to Leicester and Fabinho was a few seasons in at a decent Monaco side. It's a position you tend to get better at as you grow older. Liverpool were trying to punt Henderson at a similar age. McTominay was a favourite of both Solksjaer and Mourinho (the latter even created an award for him) - I'm fairly certain he will be a fixture for whoever the new manager is. Relatively low wage homegrown players are not the players Man Utd need to ship out. 

[Meldrew]

1 hour ago, 8MileBU said:

Their best eleven practically picks itself even if Solskjaer didn’t.

With the exception of Varane, their entire first choice defence is second rate guff. What’s waiting in the wings is laughable.

In midfield, Pogba is world class if at any point he decides he can be arsed. Fernandes can’t seem to do it in the big games against the top teams. Van De Beek admittedly I haven’t seen enough of. The rest are second rate guff, whilst Mata and Matic are past their sell by date.

It’s only up front that they’re fairly well equipped. 

maybe football isnt for you, even with the worst manager in their history, they've finished in the top 4 in the last two seasons and got to finals in cups, a proper manager with a direction will change the whole dynamic of that team, 

[Meldrew]

Just now, Satoshi said:

To give a bit of context on Maguire cupping his hands in the Albania match, this goes back to when he was arrested for fighting with the Greek police.

His defence was that he was protecting his sister from dodgy Albanians - an easy target in Greece. No exact equivalent here in the UK but if you go back a few decades it would be saying that the suspects looked Irish-y.

I would have loved to have seen Maguire (or his party) pointing out how they can tell the difference between the Greek and Albanian language...

As an aside, any Albanian partying on a Greek island is probably very wealthy. I doubt they ever existed but if they had Maguire would have (and should have!) shat the bed before trying to fight them.

I imagine the fans were booing him because he fell back on a lazy racist stereotype to cover the fact he made an arse of himself, making life even harder for the hard working migrants who go there to work and face prejudice as it is. He's a c**t basically.

Great to see such a terrible person playing badly and making a fool of himself. Despite how awful he is, his penalty in the Euros final was actually, grudgingly, top class. Great they didn't win so it wasn't on a loop for months to come.

As for those criticising McTominay, and unfavourable comparisons to Kante and Fabinho - important to emphasize McTominay is already ahead in his career than either of those were at a similar age. Kante had just moved to Leicester and Fabinho was a few seasons in at a decent Monaco side. It's a position you tend to get better at as you grow older. Liverpool were trying to punt Henderson at a similar age. McTominay was a favourite of both Solksjaer and Mourinho (the latter even created an award for him) - I'm fairly certain he will be a fixture for whoever the new manager is. Relatively low wage homegrown players are not the players Man Utd need to ship out. 

there is absolutely no way McTominay is a fixture with the new guy, and him being a favourite of Mourinho was more about his ''feud'' with Pogba than the ability one of P & B's tartan darling has.

[Michael W]

14 hours ago, Meldrew said:

the club monitor everything on their social media pages, club propaganda for both ole in & ole out factions

https://www.caughtoffside.com/2021/11/08/neville-man-united-social-media/

I have to hand it to them - their fans have been lapping it up. 

I find the whole thing perverse and also think it reflects badly on Solskjaer, who looks like a total doormat. He gets fired, so rather than just seeing himself out, he goes on camera to say some words, thank you for the opportunity etc. in order that the club that's fired him can get some likes and MY CLUB ❤ engagement on its socials.

Only in the #Barclays

Edited November 22, 2021 by Michael W

[Meldrew]

2 hours ago, Michael W said:

I have to hand it to them - their fans have been lapping it up. 

I find the whole thing perverse and also think it reflects badly on Solskjaer, who looks like a total doormat. He gets fired, so rather than just seeing himself out, he goes on camera to say some words, thank you for the opportunity etc. in order that the club that's fired him can get some likes and MY CLUB ❤ engagement on its socials.

Only in the #Barclays

''Top Red'' United fans are like Scientologists, they lap up every bit of club propaganda, and think it makes them superior supporters, they're every bit of as bad for the club as the Glazers,

Edited November 22, 2021 by Meldrew

[8MileBU]

3 hours ago, accies1874 said:

9 hours ago, 8MileBU said:

Their best eleven practically picks itself even if Solskjaer didn’t.
With the exception of Varane, their entire first choice defence is second rate guff. What’s waiting in the wings is laughable.
In midfield, Pogba is world class if at any point he decides he can be arsed. Fernandes can’t seem to do it in the big games against the top teams. Van De Beek admittedly I haven’t seen enough of. The rest are second rate guff, whilst Mata and Matic are past their sell by date.
It’s only up front that they’re fairly well equipped. 

You're not accounting for a good manager improving some players though. Maguire, Shaw, Pogba and even McTominay have shown that they're capable of better than what they've shown this season. That doesn't necessarily mean a new manager will get the best out of them but they're not performing to their best atm and a good manager can elevate them.

I am though. I fully agree with what you say about a new manager giving a side a lift, (Tuchel a good example at Chelsea), but for the sort of money Man Utd have spent relative to the other big spenders, there’s absolutely no excuse for the standard of players in key positions (namely defence and midfield) being so far behind what their rivals have and in several cases paid significantly less for. That said, I’m not entirely convinced the last few Utd managers had all that much of say in several of their signings.

1 hour ago, Meldrew said:

maybe football isnt for you, even with the worst manager in their history, they've finished in the top 4 in the last two seasons and got to finals in cups, a proper manager with a direction will change the whole dynamic of that team, 

Uh-huh.

Edited November 22, 2021 by 8MileBU

[eez-eh]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59372826

It has also been suggested former United skipper Steve Bruce would be interested in the short-term role following his exit from Newcastle.

Make it so.

[Sergeant Wilson]

5 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

Sky saying Poch will take over next summer.

What are they going to do in the mean time?  Give it Carrick and write off the season after 12 games? They might as well kept Ole. He could have got them into the Europa League.

 

Give the remaining staff turns each.

[Satoshi]

3 hours ago, Meldrew said:

there is absolutely no way McTominay is a fixture with the new guy, and him being a favourite of Mourinho was more about his ''feud'' with Pogba than the ability one of P & B's tartan darling has.

Right, so just two of two managers who thought he was great and talked him up repeatedly.

But someone on the internet will be right, it's all a feud with a third player

You seem to dislike him because he's a Scottish International - it's strange you post on this forum at all.

[Ro Sham Bo]

2 hours ago, eez-eh said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59372826

It has also been suggested former United skipper Steve Bruce would be interested in the short-term role following his exit from Newcastle.

Make it so.

This could be Brucie's big chance to land a late knockout blow in the Bruce v Moyes 'debate'....

 

 

[Meldrew]

2 hours ago, Satoshi said:

Right, so just two of two managers who thought he was great and talked him up repeatedly.

But someone on the internet will be right, it's all a feud with a third player

You seem to dislike him because he's a Scottish International - it's strange you post on this forum at all.

No i dislike him because he's shite,  why do you feel the need to defend him ? is it just because he's Scottish ? Did your maw vote for fat Michelle McManus on pop idol because she was the ''wee scottish lassie'' in among all they English ?

these guys see him every week

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/scott-mctominay-2021-22-performances.464099/page-31

 

 

haven't you as a fan with pashun for your team, been annoyed at ''the manager'' when he claimed a player was great ?

But to fit your agenda, 2 managers said he was great, so he's great.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 22, 2021 by Meldrew

[19QOS19]

What a state to get yourself in.

[oneteaminglasgow]

Scott McTominay is absolutely good enough for Man United just now and he’s clearly nowhere near being the biggest issue with their squad. If they want to catch up with, and overtake, Liverpool, City and Chelsea then he’s probably not good enough for that but they’re a long, long way off that just now. 

Edited November 22, 2021 by oneteaminglasgow