Jim McLean's Ghost Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 minute ago, J_Stewart said: Yes, because of course referees have never made incorrect decisions or missed things in the past. He trips him with his left leg and pulls his shirt. It’s an absolutely blatant penalty. He doesn't trip him. It is a close decision. You could look at it and say the city player moved into the arsenal playrer and dived. That is why VAR should not have got invvolved. Not a clear error from the ref. And another to add to the countless examples of EPL refs misusing VAR. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG.Roma Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, Jacky1990 said: Yes he dived, but Xhaka is clearly pulling his shirt in the box as Silva runs past him. 8 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Diving is a foul too.. so he was diving before the pull I wish a ref would have the guts to punish them both. Award the penalty because there was a foul, but also book the guy for diving coz he's clearly trying to cheat. Don't think I've ever seen it in football, but have in ice hockey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Referee doesn't award a penalty. VAR say want to look at that again, lad? Referee has a look, changes his mind. Penalty awarded. Man on Internet : IT WAS NOT AN ERROR FROM REFEREE. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jacky1990 said: Not a clear error *in your opinion* The VAR obviously thought it was a clear error. When apparently the VAR said "he pulled him down" it show the VAR has bad opinions 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Steptoe and son in the city end there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Outstanding red card. Wouldn't rule out another one before the end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Just now, Mr. Alli said: Referee doesn't award a penalty. VAR say want to look at that again, lad? Referee has a look, changes his mind. Penalty awarded. Man on Internet : IT WAS NOT AN ERROR FROM REFEREE. It has to be more than an error. I'm quoting here. What qualifies as a “clear and obvious error”? In testing, there was no unanimity. Different VARs came up with different outcomes. But the VAR should not be asking, "Do I think it's right or wrong?" The question is, "Is what the match officials have done a clear and obvious error?" There is a very high bar for that intervention. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, GAD said: Ref is having a shocker to be fair. Absolutely lost the plot and in a big massive huff with Arsenal because they are right and he's making a c**t of himself. Ref was having a great game until the pen IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 If I was Pep, I'd be taking Ake off and getting a more forward thinking player on. He's being hesitant going forward and defensively. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky1990 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: When apparently the VAR said "he pulled him down" it show the VAR has bad opinions Or two highly qualified referees have a better understanding of the rules relating to shirt pulling than (mainly hungover) people on an internet forum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky1990 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: It has to be more than an error. I'm quoting here. What qualifies as a “clear and obvious error”? In testing, there was no unanimity. Different VARs came up with different outcomes. But the VAR should not be asking, "Do I think it's right or wrong?" The question is, "Is what the match officials have done a clear and obvious error?" There is a very high bar for that intervention. And the VAR obviosuly felt it met that threshold. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend, even if you disagree with it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jacky1990 said: Or two highly qualified referees have a better understanding of the rules relating to shirt pulling than (mainly hungover) people on an internet forum. Or a group of referees who have made mistakes time and again (some that the EPL have admitted to) have made another mistake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Fair play to arsenal, seem to have regained the composure and shape has been excellent the last 5 / 10 minutes. Shame because it looked like there was going to be some brilliant comedy and violence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 If I was Pep, I'd be taking Ake off and getting a more forward thinking player on. He's being hesitant going forward and defensively. Chuck Cancelo out there, mainly because I've always wanted to see De Bruyne at RB. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jacky1990 said: And the VAR obviosuly felt it met that threshold. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend, even if you disagree with it? To be fair, given they are still arguing about it on BT, maybe it isn’t that clear cut. Edited January 1, 2022 by Jambomo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Keown is an absolute clown, not that this is news. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Just now, Mr. Brightside said: Keown is an absolute clown, not that this is news. As is McManaman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raith_94 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Steve McManaman currently the sanest person in the stadium. Got to be a first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Jambomo said: To be fair, given they are still arguing about it on BT, maybe it isn’t that clear cut. If you're "was it a clear and obvious error?" comrades are Steve McManaman and Martin Keown then it's probably best you accept you're wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 The Ref has been awful though. He’ll book an Arsenal player (was it Odegaard?)for a pullback but has just ignored that one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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