Leith Green Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr. Alli said: If they're the correct decision then obviously justice is being done. I dont really understand what "justice being done" means. There are a number of incidents mentioned in the previous page from the Hearts v Livi match where VAR didnt intervene. VAR is turning every match into a circus right now, the fans dont know what the hell is going on, and if you are in a stadium where it is in operation, you would see that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 It's also the case that we are yet to have the "opitmal banter" decision yet. Where at Ibrox or parkhead the home team score to take the lead and this is chopped off for a penalty at the other end, ideally in the last few minutes of the game. The normal human reactions to this, regardless of the merits of the call wil be entertaining at the very least. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 21 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said: It's also the case that we are yet to have the "opitmal banter" decision yet. Where at Ibrox or parkhead the home team score to take the lead and this is chopped off for a penalty at the other end, ideally in the last few minutes of the game. The normal human reactions to this, regardless of the merits of the call wil be entertaining at the very least. Sure, we are all human after all ! But I think, as I mention above, I dont think many of us thought (having mostly only seen VAR on English tv matches) just how poor the "in stadium" experience is. Naively I had expected to see the kind of views and replays we saw on these televised games - what we actually have is fans being told next to nothing and the big screens that most of the larger clubs now have are not utilised properly (imo). That may be the same in the English stadiums, but it doesnt make it right. I caught about 15 minutes of the egg chasing yesterday and their TMO is quick, decisions are shown on the screen and - even though there are still subjective decisions - how it is communicated is infinitely superior. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 If they're the correct decision then obviously justice is being done.For spreadsheet shaggers maybe, but dishing out lucky dip penalties for handball doesn't really improve any normal viewer's sense of justice. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: They didn’t have a decent view of Celtic’s goal against Motherwell and this looks like it was taken on a 2003 Nokia. Dinna be daft. You know fine well neither of those examples stand up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 48 minutes ago, Leith Green said: Sure, we are all human after all ! But I think, as I mention above, I dont think many of us thought (having mostly only seen VAR on English tv matches) just how poor the "in stadium" experience is. Naively I had expected to see the kind of views and replays we saw on these televised games - what we actually have is fans being told next to nothing and the big screens that most of the larger clubs now have are not utilised properly (imo). That may be the same in the English stadiums, but it doesnt make it right. I caught about 15 minutes of the egg chasing yesterday and their TMO is quick, decisions are shown on the screen and - even though there are still subjective decisions - how it is communicated is infinitely superior. They don't show the incident(s) being checked on the screens in England either (it says there is a check and what for). In fact, does this happen anywhere? Unsure why it can't though. However, get VAR to f**k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 35 minutes ago, craigkillie said: For spreadsheet shaggers maybe, but dishing out lucky dip penalties for handball doesn't really improve any normal viewer's sense of justice. This is at least partly down to the relatively new interpretation of the handball law which covers a lot of innocuous cases which would have been “ball played man” and instead puts the presumption of guilt on the defender The problems with this change were more than apparent already but they’re only amplified by being applied in slow motion after the event 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: They don't show the incident(s) being checked on the screens in England either (it says there is a check and what for). In fact, does this happen anywhere? Unsure why it can't though. However, get VAR to f**k. I may be mistaken, but I think Nottingham Forest showed a VAR decision on the big screen at their ground last weekend. Although I'm not sure if this was actually the footage the referee was shown or if it was part of their own coverage. I'm sure it caused a bit of a meltdown in the stadium as it was when they conceded a penalty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: For spreadsheet shaggers maybe, but dishing out lucky dip penalties for handball doesn't really improve any normal viewer's sense of justice. It's not implemented to improve a "normal viewers sense of justice". Its there to get the decisions correct, which you said it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 They don't show the incident(s) being checked on the screens in England either (it says there is a check and what for). In fact, does this happen anywhere? Unsure why it can't though. However, get VAR to f**k. I may be mistaken, but I think Nottingham Forest showed a VAR decision on the big screen at their ground last weekend. Although I'm not sure if this was actually the footage the referee was shown or if it was part of their own coverage. I'm sure it caused a bit of a meltdown in the stadium as it was when they conceded a penalty.Yeah a few clubs seem to show a decision on the big screen after it has/hasn't been given. I think it is part of their standard replays rather than VAR. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Bring back indirect free kicks in the penalty area 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, DA Baracus said: They don't show the incident(s) being checked on the screens in England either (it says there is a check and what for). In fact, does this happen anywhere? Unsure why it can't though. However, get VAR to f**k. I know the Comms down there leaves a lot to be desired too, but like I say......rugby is light years ahead. Agreed on your last line ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Leith Green said: I know the Comms down there leaves a lot to be desired too, but like I say......rugby is light years ahead. Agreed on your last line ! Although Rugby's recent law changes have given it a worse red/yellow card lottery problem than football ETA: Rugby is at least doing it to in an attempt to stop people being seriously injured as opposed to appease utter roasters on twitter Edited November 14, 2022 by topcat(The most tip top) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawB93 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Hilariously on-brand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Sanchez Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I've just seen Gary Lineker point out, quite reasonably, that the foul on Glenn Hoddle in the build up would have seen Maradona's second goal against England disallowed by VAR. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Fitba is dead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 13 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said: It's also the case that we are yet to have the "opitmal banter" decision yet. Where at Ibrox or parkhead the home team score to take the lead and this is chopped off for a penalty at the other end, ideally in the last few minutes of the game. The normal human reactions to this, regardless of the merits of the call wil be entertaining at the very least. 31 minutes ago, Dirty Sanchez said: I've just seen Gary Lineker point out, quite reasonably, that the foul on Glenn Hoddle in the build up would have seen Maradona's second goal against England disallowed by VAR. I was wavering as to whether o was watching the world cup or not. The prospect of VAR reviews of 60 years worth of hard luck stories from those c***s has clinched it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dirty Sanchez said: I've just seen Gary Lineker point out, quite reasonably, that the foul on Glenn Hoddle in the build up would have seen Maradona's second goal against England disallowed by VAR. I don’t think it would as a VAR goal check would only pick up from when the attacking phase started which is the pass going to Maradona from Henrique. I’m also pretty sure it’s Beardsley not Hoddle who lost possession to Cuciuffo who then passed to Henrique and the attacking phase begins. I may have watched this goal a few times So aye Lineker would be wrong. The cheek of him to even suggest it Edited November 14, 2022 by Jinky67 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrobell Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 They didn’t have a decent view of Celtic’s goal against Motherwell and this looks like it was taken on a 2003 Nokia. Also it’s bang on the line / outside the box 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 26 minutes ago, kenrobell said: Also it’s bang on the line / outside the box On the line is inside the box. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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