Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Lyle Lanley]

 

 

 

[djchapsticks]

3 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:

 

 

 

Aye cheers Nicola, I'll raise a fucking glass to your bravado in the 4 seconds between Faslane getting hit and my becoming a shadow on the tarmac.

[dirty dingus]

This could end up with Russia running out of money if the convoy is suck on the roads and Little Chef is the only available food outlets.

 

 

[TheScarf]

Sturgeon needs to pipe down, this issue is for the grown ups.

[BFTD]

1 hour ago, WATTOO said:

Yes, but "the limits" have been getting ridiculous recently.

This "oh I take offence to that" has become the norm and indeed the war cry of anyone who just doesn't like what their opponents are arguing and makes it too easy to just ignore / cancel anything which leads to debate.

Sorry, but that's just not on.

 

1 hour ago, WATTOO said:

In fairness in the real world I haven't ever come across any of the "types" that you seem to get on social media and indeed even the mainstream, so whether or not they actually exist is I suppose open to debate (if still permitted).

Don't let that stop you raging about it, though.

[coprolite]

9 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

The majority of the real working classes don't give a flying fcuk about the type of geopolitical stuff that's being discussed on here, there's much more pressing things in their life such as paying their bills and attempting to make ends meet with the reality wages of £16k - £25k as opposed to the silly figures often bandied about as the average / median wage.

As such, Governments and their advisers need a bit of a wake up call as to what really matters to people as when these energy increases and general cost of living / massive inflation starts to kick in then, there's going to be problems.

Many make the mistake (and I often see it on here also) that everyone thinks like the Uni student or the relatively affluent middle classes, however things aren't like that in the real world, so whether someone is labelled as left, right, liberal, fascist or whatever, the reality is that the majority in the country neither understand nor do they care about all that sort of stuff and rightly so when they have real life issues to be dealing with day to day, every day....

I agree that the majority of people are uninterested in politics but I’d take issue with your suggestion that poorer people are more likely to be disinterested. I don’t have any data but it feels wrong. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, BFTD said:

 

Don't let that stop you raging about it, though.

I didn't and I won't.

[Bairnardo]

I'm very much of the opinion that there's very few politicians from which I want to hear their pontificating on the rights and wrongs of a no fly zone. Any such zone would be implemented by a NATO coalition. Scotland, as an entity, as represented by Nicola Sturgeon, doesn't really have any skin in the game. Leave this to the high command of the various armies involved tbh.

Thats the civilised version of what I think. Less so, just shut the f**k up Nicola, your contribution is about as helpful as that of Liz Truss, which is quite the achievement.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, coprolite said:

I agree that the majority of people are uninterested in politics but I’d take issue with your suggestion that poorer people are more likely to be disinterested. I don’t have any data but it feels wrong. 

It's a question of priorities as some can't afford to have the same morals as others I'm afraid.

[BFTD]

1 minute ago, WATTOO said:

It's a question of priorities as some can't afford to have the same morals as others I'm afraid.

Fucking hell.

[Lofarl]

One thing this will put an end to is any anti nuclear weapons and power sentiment.  No nuclear armed nation is going to find much support to scale back its weapons program.  Likewise you can bet that nuclear power plants in Europe will be back on the agenda.

 

Well done Vlad.

[coprolite]

1 minute ago, WATTOO said:

It's a question of priorities as some can't afford to have the same morals as others I'm afraid.

Bollocks

when I’ve been on a picket line it’s been manned mainly by the lower paid staff. 
 

The folk organising all the Ukraine collections at my work are the secretaries. 

[Wee-Bey]

That Sturgeon quote really has the vibe of the fake showbiz news stuff.

STFU Sturgeon.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, BFTD said:

Fucking hell.

In case you misunderstand me, what I'm getting at is that if you're on the breadline and shop in say Lidl and Aldi, then someone who's not in a precarious financial situation shouldn't be telling people to shop in Sainsbury's or Waitrose instead as Lidl and Aldi are owned by a German who has links to Putin. (they don't but that's just an example).

 

The point I'm making, is that feeding the kids is more important than virtue signalling for Facebook likes etc.

[Dan Steele]

25 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:

 

 

 

How does Daily Mail political editor get that from the two statements in quotes? What's the ellipsis missing out? That seems a very misleading statement, free of any context.

[Wee-Bey]

And if that Russian offer is genuine, then Ukraine should be snapping it up and finishing this shit show.

[BFTD]

2 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

In case you misunderstand me, what I'm getting at is that if you're on the breadline and shop in say Lidl and Aldi, then someone who's not in a precarious financial situation shouldn't be telling people to shop in Sainsbury's or Waitrose instead as Lidl and Aldi are owned by a German who has links to Putin. (they don't but that's just an example).

The point I'm making, is that feeding the kids is more important than virtue signalling for Facebook likes etc.

You need some time away from the Internet, instead of getting yourself into a state over what imaginary people are doing.

[Theroadlesstravelled]

4 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

In case you misunderstand me, what I'm getting at is that if you're on the breadline and shop in say Lidl and Aldi, then someone who's not in a precarious financial situation shouldn't be telling people to shop in Sainsbury's or Waitrose instead as Lidl and Aldi are owned by a German who has links to Putin. (they don't but that's just an example).

 

The point I'm making, is that feeding the kids is more important than virtue signalling for Facebook likes etc.

Are these people in the room right now?

[Benjamin_Nevis]

In case you misunderstand me, what I'm getting at is that if you're on the breadline and shop in say Lidl and Aldi, then someone who's not in a precarious financial situation shouldn't be telling people to shop in Sainsbury's or Waitrose instead as Lidl and Aldi are owned by a German who has links to Putin. (they don't but that's just an example).
 
The point I'm making, is that feeding the kids is more important than virtue signalling for Facebook likes etc.

[emoji1787]

The three certainties in life. Death, Taxes and Wattoo getting into a total state about "woke culture".

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, coprolite said:

Bollocks

when I’ve been on a picket line it’s been manned mainly by the lower paid staff. 
 

The folk organising all the Ukraine collections at my work are the secretaries. 

I was a senior Union official for over 10 years myself so I'm not arguing as what you're saying there is often True, but as I say, I'm talking about when push comes to shove people have more to worry about in their own life than not buying from Holland & Barrett because it's owned by a Russian Oligarch.

Yes, you often find those with the least tend to give the most but again I'm not getting at that, I'm talking about those who literally haven't a penny to spare can't possibly decide to pick and choose where they shop etc just to please a few middle class sorts who have no idea what it's like to be living from pay to pay and hoping you make it to the end of the month.