Russian invasion of Ukraine

[jagfox]

 

[Silvio Tattiescone]

Remember when the Russians sent Spetznaz squads to assassinate Zelensky in the early days of the war? 

[Silvio Tattiescone]

4 hours ago, ICTChris said:

Two drones appear to have hit the Kremlin last night. Russian state sources describing it as a terrorist act and an attempt on Putin’s life.

Some footage of the strikes from a neighbourhood webcam.

 

 

[LongTimeLurker]

It's absolutely epic that they managed to bounce a drone off the Kremlin's roof. Not buying the denials for a minute as this will be about getting them to cancel their big Victory Day parade in Red Square. The last time I was in Moscow a Ukrainian I know with Russian citizenship took me to a Ukrainian restaurant that was only a few hundred yards from where this happened. Sad what Vlad has done to Russia because there was a time not so long ago that this war would have been completely unthinkable, particularly for the older generation that grew up under Brezhnev in what in my experience they still tend to view as being a better time:

 

[The Other Foot]

Good. But next time, kill the c**t. 

[ICTChris]

Guardian article about the fighting in the Dnipro Delta near Kherson.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/03/fight-ukrainian-river-battle-dnipro-delta-kherson
 

Regarding the Kremlin drone attack being a false flag, maybe it is but seems a very strange tactic. To hit the Kremlin with two drones indicates incompetence and failure by Russia. The Russians have already thrown their entire conventional arsenal to this war, they’ve already mobilised civilians, they don’t need an excuse to use anything. 

[vikingTON]

1 hour ago, ICTChris said:

Guardian article about the fighting in the Dnipro Delta near Kherson.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/03/fight-ukrainian-river-battle-dnipro-delta-kherson
 

Regarding the Kremlin drone attack being a false flag, maybe it is but seems a very strange tactic. To hit the Kremlin with two drones indicates incompetence and failure by Russia. The Russians have already thrown their entire conventional arsenal to this war, they’ve already mobilised civilians, they don’t need an excuse to use anything. 

I can think of an excuse needed to use something in their arsenal. 

 

[TxRover]

1 minute ago, virginton said:

I can think of an excuse needed to use something in their arsenal. 

That is my concern on this…the general type of aerial vehicle that appears in the grainy footage wouldn’t have the range to fly from Ukraine. That’s hardly conclusive, but if Putin is worried about the rumoured Ukrainian counteroffensive and his miliatry problems, we can’t rule out use of something. The open question is would the Russians use chemical weapons, or straight to tactical nukes?

2 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

It's absolutely epic that they managed to bounce a drone off the Kremlin's roof. Not buying the denials for a minute as this will be about getting them to cancel their big Victory Day parade in Red Square. The last time I was in Moscow a Ukrainian I know with Russian citizenship took me to a Ukrainian restaurant that was only a few hundred yards from where this happened. Sad what Vlad has done to Russia because there was a time not so long ago that this war would have been completely unthinkable, particularly for the older generation that grew up under Brezhnev in what in my experience they still tend to view as being a better time:

 

Say what you will, despite the turgid lyrics, that is a pretty solid piece of music for an anthem.

[LongTimeLurker]

2 hours ago, ICTChris said:

Regarding the Kremlin drone attack being a false flag, maybe it is but seems a very strange tactic. To hit the Kremlin with two drones indicates incompetence and failure by Russia. The Russians have already thrown their entire conventional arsenal to this war, they’ve already mobilised civilians, they don’t need an excuse to use anything. 

The level of embarrasment of having a Ukrainian drone almost knock the flag off the top of the Kremlin should not be underestimated. This has usually been the main symbol of Russian/Soviet state power down through the centuries:

 

[TxRover]

2 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

The level of embarrasment of having a Ukrainian drone almost knock the flag off the top of the Kremlin should not be underestimated. This has usually been the main symbol of Russian/Soviet state power down through the centuries:

 

The level of outrage they can try to drum up with this “attack” is equally not to be underestimated. Remember, Russian control of news and stories is pretty complete, even the internet isn’t immune to tampering there with the various gatekeeper systems and big tech often kowtowing to Russian demands to limit things. They can play up the attack stuff and sweep the questions and denials under the rug. The older folks will buy it, they aren’t going to be drafted, so they’ll squeal for action.

[Dev]

NewsNow has picked up an article in something named "The New Voice of Ukraine" with this headline:

"IAEA Inspectors Find Explosives at Russia-occupied ZNPP"

NewsNow also found this covered by Ukrainska Pravda:

"Russians are storing explosives at Zaporizhia Nuclear Plant"

There is the risk that Russia will attempt to destroy what it cannot have/ A nuclear plant and explosives are not a good mix.

 

[RandomGuy.]

13 hours ago, Newbornbairn said:

Remember when the Russians sent Spetznaz squads to assassinate Zelensky in the early days of the war? 

This is, apparently, one the outcomes of the "attack" on Putin last night.

It means they have an excuse to try and assassinate him again. If hes now killed, either in Ukraine or elsewhere, they can claim it was just retaliation.

[Stellaboz]

For one thing, it's clearly not an attempt to assassinate anyone. So we can through that straight in the bin.

[RandomGuy.]

34 minutes ago, Stellaboz said:

For one thing, it's clearly not an attempt to assassinate anyone. So we can through that straight in the bin.

Aye its just an explanation for a "false flag" operation that ive seen that seems more believable than them wanting to start using nukes.

Most boring explanation is a Ukranian celebrity challenged fans to land a drone at the Kremlin during some Russian celebrations soon, and this was a practice attempt by someone that went wrong.

[ICTChris]

More drone attacks on Russian fuel depots near the border.  I think that at least four refineries have been attacked in the last few days, in addition to the fuel train and the attack on fuel storage tanks in Crimea.

 

 

[Silvio Tattiescone]

 

Top trolling from the Ukrainians 

[Dev]

17 hours ago, Dev said:

NewsNow has picked up an article in something named "The New Voice of Ukraine" with this headline:

"IAEA Inspectors Find Explosives at Russia-occupied ZNPP"

NewsNow also found this covered by Ukrainska Pravda:

"Russians are storing explosives at Zaporizhia Nuclear Plant"

There is the risk that Russia will attempt to destroy what it cannot have/ A nuclear plant and explosives are not a good mix.

 

Now also picked up by Newsweek:

"Disaster Fears After Explosives Found Inside Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Plant"

[TxRover]

Ukrainian forces driving the Russians back in the area of Avdiivka, just north on Donetsk. The Russians are reportedly pulling back under fire from positions they have held for nearly 9 years. The Russian Air Force is putting in an appearance too, risking their arses and aircraft in an effort to support the defenders.

Also, reports of increased artillery expenditures in the south as the Russians attempt to blunt any possible counter offensive,

[ICTChris]

Prigozhin has made a video where he stands next to piles of bodies of Wagner fighters and berates the Russian top brass by name for not providing shells. It is completely unhinged, like something out of a movie.

[Silvio Tattiescone]

9 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Prigozhin has made a video where he stands next to piles of bodies of Wagner fighters and berates the Russian top brass by name for not providing shells. It is completely unhinged, like something out of a movie.

I read a thing that Wagner were complaining about a lack of ammunition supplies so they basically hijacked a truck headed for the Russian army. Things escalated and it ended up with Wagner and the Russian army having a shootout with deaths on both sides. Now the Russian army refuses to send their trucks to supply them so Wagner have to use vans and pick-ups to drive to depots and collect it themselves.