ibenji Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 38 minutes ago, Lokloyal said: Interesting-so all of the upgrades were added to a ground the club didn’t own ? Pretty sure this is fine providing you get approval from the land owner. Which I think is Beith’s issue that they can’t get permission from the landowner to put floodlights 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_the_rover Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 28 minutes ago, Sortmeout said: Darvel did produce the greatest Scottish football shock of all time with the Aberdeen result and the club/Gall/MK will always have that as their legacy. Technically the biggest shock in scottish cup history is Drumchapel beating Edinburgh City 62 league places separated them, Aberdeen and Darvel was only 56 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejackdaw Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Chris_the_rover said: Technically the biggest shock in scottish cup history is Drumchapel beating Edinburgh City 62 league places separated them, Aberdeen and Darvel was only 56 Technically yes but only one result will be spoken about for the next 100 years and it won't be drumchapel . 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokloyal Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Stag Nation said: That sounds perfectly normal with a long lease. As long as the lease is of decent duration-which it sounds like it is at 99 or whatever years.To be fair the ground is pretty good now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokloyal Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, ibenji said: Pretty sure this is fine providing you get approval from the land owner. Which I think is Beith’s issue that they can’t get permission from the landowner to put floodlights A difficult one -always thought Beith owned Bellsdale and didn’t realise they were tenants 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bheaten Castard Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 23 hours ago, Peter Culter said: They will definitely get to the end of the season. I have no doubt about that. I did hear a rumour towards the end of last season that Gall got an ultimatum from auditors who visited Pie HQ. Along the lines of run your business properly and stop throwing money at your hobby or you won’t have a business… Gall has thrown more money at his favourite football team than he has ever thrown at Darvel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceejayar Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Lokloyal said: Interesting-so all of the upgrades were added to a ground the club didn’t own ? I believe so, certainly when the dressing rooms and covered terracing went in that was the case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibenji Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Lokloyal said: A difficult one -always thought Beith owned Bellsdale and didn’t realise they were tenants Yeah Beith thought North Ayrshire Council were their landlord however it transpires the land is actually owned by a historical trust whose last living member died in 1971. Without the land owners permission you can’t get planning therefore no floodlights and as such no license 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, ibenji said: Yeah Beith thought North Ayrshire Council were their landlord however it transpires the land is actually owned by a historical trust whose last living member died in 1971. Without the land owners permission you can’t get planning therefore no floodlights and as such no license that's mental. surely there must be a way to have a living person become responsible for decision-making for the site on behalf of the trust? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 57 minutes ago, ibenji said: Yeah Beith thought North Ayrshire Council were their landlord however it transpires the land is actually owned by a historical trust whose last living member died in 1971. Without the land owners permission you can’t get planning therefore no floodlights and as such no license Have a seance to contact one of the former committee to see if it's ok. I nominate @Thejackdaw (Hertha) to lead it. He could wear an Ali Baba hat and everything! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Surely Beith can apply to a court for an exemption to get floodlights built on the assumption there is no change of use for the ground that the trust approved hundred or so years ago? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM-1 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Shame Gals a mouthpiece who comes across a bit arrogant -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Surely Beith can apply to a court for an exemption to get floodlights built on the assumption there is no change of use for the ground that the trust approved hundred or so years ago? Or the council just compulsory purchase it? Hardly going to have any objections... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energyzone Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Maybe Beith are quite happy with the current situation re floodlights and licencing? No licence = no promotion and things in the WOSFL remain as they are. If they are then they won't be the only ones. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, energyzone said: Maybe Beith are quite happy with the current situation re floodlights and licencing? No licence = no promotion and things in the WOSFL remain as they are. If they are then they won't be the only ones. The only snag with that is the necessity to win their way into the big Scottish in order to suckle from that particular teat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejackdaw Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, energyzone said: Maybe Beith are quite happy with the current situation re floodlights and licencing? No licence = no promotion and things in the WOSFL remain as they are. If they are then they won't be the only ones. That is complete and utter nonsense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beith19 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 The club have already invested a good bit of time and money into progressing ground ownership and getting licensed - transfer to a new trust etc but the legal issues are very frustrating for all involved. Sadly no exciting or interesting alternative reasons. As for promotion, can't even think about that in October or we'd fall flat on our face. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energyzone Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Thejackdaw said: That is complete and utter nonsense. Might be, hence the question mark. Thanks for clarifying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenbuck Nosepicker Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 On 15/10/2023 at 20:16, Ceejayar said: I believe so, certainly when the dressing rooms and covered terracing went in that was the case. I understand the ground was gifted to the council by lsdy London but must be used solely for community recreation purposes. The council were keen to pass it on for a nominal figure of £3000. Any purchaser is bound by the original conditions in the title deeds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldsofdreams Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Players been told they have to take pay cuts. Scott Ferguson's mum posting on the Darvel FB page that he didn't want to move or ask to move it was Darvel that sold him. I don't think it will be long before you see the league position plummet and more players leaving. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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