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2 hours ago, DrewDon said:

Marcotti and Romano wouldn't last ten seconds in the marketplace of ideas that is the beIN Sports studio with Keysie and big Andy on an average Sunday.

It really is a #BreathOfFreshAir watching Bein every weekend as opposed to the PC shite served up by Sky and BT. Anything goes. 

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1 hour ago, throbber said:

The point Graeme souness made such an awful attempt at making was that the players out there are robust enough to get involved in physical tussles on the pitch without the game constantly being stopped and players diving.. I don’t think he deserves to be branded as a disgrace for it.

 

Souness has used the 'it's a man's game' and variations of the phrase numerous times before over the years, I remember it because I cringe whenever he says it. People trying to claim this was only in relation to some specific point are way off it. It's his chosen phrase when he wants to point out the game is too soft and should be more physical and the players tougher. You also hear it on Sportsound semi-regularly with the dinosaurs on there. You can believe that the game should be more physical and tougher without implying that those are somehow male traits, it's totally unnecessary and sooner or later was going to get picked on in today's culture.

It's not something that personally offends me, I just find it cringeworthy. And the pile-on is obviously ridiculous, but at the same time it is a phrase that is completely outdated and needs binned.

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Everton would be crazy not to accept whatever improved offer Chelsea come back with for Gordon. Get rid of the diving wee shite and bring a quality striker in.
Reports that they want 50 million and that Chelsea aren't the only club interested.
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1 hour ago, eez-eh said:

My Barclays 30 year badge arrived in the post this morning. Don’t know if I should put it on now or wait until MNF starts?

Just pop it on now. I wear a Barclays pin badge around the office at work now. Always good for striking up conversations with fellow enthusiasts in the lift or the staff canteen. Sometimes causes a bit of confusion if I go into a branch and they realise I'm not a member of staff, but that's just a minor inconvenience. 

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Just pop it on now. I wear a Barclays pin badge around the office at work now. Always good for striking up conversations with fellow enthusiasts in the lift or the staff canteen. Sometimes causes a bit of confusion if I go into a branch and they realise I'm not a member of staff, but that's just a minor inconvenience. 
Not an employee, a disciple.
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1 hour ago, Diamonds are Forever said:

People trying to claim this was only in relation to some specific point are way off it. It's his chosen phrase when he wants to point out the game is too soft and should be more physical and the players tougher.

Erm, his specific point was that he enjoyed the game he was watching being more physical and tougher.

Reported on the BBC an hour ago that Souness does not regret a single word of what he said. Good, nor should he. This is in danger of getting completely out of hand. For actual fcuk sake, you’d think that sitting on a panel with an England Lioness, Souness had been asked if he’d watched the Women’s Euros, and he’d replied ‘Nope. Football is a man’s game’.

I swear, the world is fcuking mad.

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28 minutes ago, pozbaird said:

Erm, his specific point was that he enjoyed the game he was watching being more physical and tougher.

Reported on the BBC an hour ago that Souness does not regret a single word of what he said. Good, nor should he. This is in danger of getting completely out of hand. For actual fcuk sake, you’d think that sitting on a panel with an England Lioness, Souness had been asked if he’d watched the Women’s Euros, and he’d replied ‘Nope. Football is a man’s game’.

I swear, the world is fcuking mad.

 

Which he could have phrased like you have and there would be no issue. Preferring that type of football has nothing to do with being a 'man's game' and the opposite isn't a 'women's game' (or a 'boy's game' as I've seen some people try and claim), it's just football which allows more physical contact, that's all that he had to say. It's an outdated and utterly tone deaf way of explaining himself. The Office had David Brent saying that line more than 20 years ago to mock it.

The reaction is obviously ludicrous, but that is the way of the world these days so I have no real sympathy for anyone that tone deaf on a major broadcaster.

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18 minutes ago, Diamonds are Forever said:

 

Which he could have phrased like you have and there would be no issue. Preferring that type of football has nothing to do with being a 'man's game' and the opposite isn't a 'women's game' (or a 'boy's game' as I've seen some people try and claim), it's just football which allows more physical contact, that's all that he had to say. It's an outdated and utterly tone deaf way of explaining himself. The Office had David Brent saying that line more than 20 years ago to mock it.

The reaction is obviously ludicrous, but that is the way of the world these days so I have no real sympathy for anyone that tone deaf on a major broadcaster.

"Men against Boys" is quite a well used phrase and folk always talk about youth players needing to toughen up (or even "Man up") so it isn't a massive stretch tbf even if I don't believe for one moment that it's the actual comparison that was being made. 

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46 minutes ago, Diamonds are Forever said:

 

Which he could have phrased like you have and there would be no issue. Preferring that type of football has nothing to do with being a 'man's game' and the opposite isn't a 'women's game' (or a 'boy's game' as I've seen some people try and claim), it's just football which allows more physical contact, that's all that he had to say. It's an outdated and utterly tone deaf way of explaining himself. The Office had David Brent saying that line more than 20 years ago to mock it.

The reaction is obviously ludicrous, but that is the way of the world these days so I have no real sympathy for anyone that tone deaf on a major broadcaster.

I think II’ll reserve my scorn for Giggs and Mendy. I reckon Souness was a talented, but kunty player, and I’m far from a fan of his, however, on this ocassion, I know exactly what he meant. I have zero issue with what he said. I have zero issue with the language he used. There was context, a helluva’ lot of context, to his comment. In my opinion, his comment insulted no-one, was a slight on no-one, and was certainly not intended to suggest football is a ‘man’s game’. It’s a game for everyone, obviously. Like golf. Or tiddlywinks.

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