Forfinn Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Sacking McIntyre was the right thing to do. Replacing him with Coyle was not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackie The Staggie Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Got to remember that McIntyre had Boyce playing as a midfielder for half of the last season as well, a decision which should have been enough for him to be sacked at the end of the season. However, it has to be the appointment of Coyle, and then the reckless signings he made which never addressed our weakness which will be remembered as the reason why we are relegated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stag317 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Michael Gardyne has been unbelievably poor this season. I have a feeling that he's only played lately due to friendship with Ketts.I was going to head to Perth on Saturday but I can't bring myself to self inflict such pain!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted May 9, 2018 Author Share Posted May 9, 2018 Two or three of us were discussing on Friday (pre-match, I think) that relegation would likely be no bad thing in the long-term. There's just so much deadwood needing shifted. Stay up and there's a big chance that we'll get another summer of short-term thinking and bad recruitment. Go down, take the hit, but actually get some 'strategy' instead of pissing money up the wall on short-deal huddies. Getting relegated from the First Division was shit but turned out to be a good thing. It pretty much laid the groundwork for the Scottish Cup final and promotion to the SPL. I'm not saying that relegation this time will reap the same results but I'm not overly fussed if it happens. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrie Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, RiG said: We went down with 34 points last season and we were complete and utter garbage. Ross County currently have 28 points. That tells you how rotten they've been. Your team from last season would absolutely pump this County side. Quote Two or three of us were discussing on Friday (pre-match, I think) that relegation would likely be no bad thing in the long-term. There's just so much deadwood needing shifted. Stay up and there's a big chance that we'll get another summer of short-term thinking and bad recruitment. Go down, take the hit, but actually get some 'strategy' instead of pissing money up the wall on short-deal huddies. Getting relegated from the First Division was shit but turned out to be a good thing. It pretty much laid the groundwork for the Scottish Cup final and promotion to the SPL. I'm not saying that relegation this time will reap the same results but I'm not overly fussed if it happens. I'd honestly agree. Virtually the entire squad could get hooked and could have no complaints. I'd possibly only keep hold of (if possible) Fox, Naismith, Fontaine, Fraser, Schalk, DKD and Mckay (who will get goals in the second tier). I'm also pretty convinced Vigurs will be in a County shirt again next season. Edited May 9, 2018 by Comrie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armand 2 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 I see Paul Paton is on the way back up the road. Pals with Kettlewell from their Queens Park days, I can certainly see him ending up in Dingwall. Imagine County would take him in either division too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) County have (allegedly) offered a contract to Vigurs. Edited May 9, 2018 by RiG 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneThrowAway Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 47 minutes ago, RiG said: County have (allegedly) offered a contract to Vigurs. Personally wouldn’t mind him back, think Jim nice-but-dim was wrong not to give him a contract when ICT got him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossCountyFan14 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Personally I don’t see how going down ‘might be a good thing’ why can’t we implement a new long term strategy while in the top flight? Transfer windows etc don’t get longer the league below 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staggie52 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 4 hours ago, RossCountyFan14 said: Personally I don’t see how going down ‘might be a good thing’ why can’t we implement a new long term strategy while in the top flight? Transfer windows etc don’t get longer the league below It’s a coping mechanism as far as I can see. Ask Dundee United fans if they’d rather stayed up or if they preferred getting the chance to go down and regroup. I fervently hope that we stay up. I won’t go so far as to say that if we go down we’ll stay down but I can’t see it being easy to bounce back and every season out of the top league will make it far harder financially to get back up. New long term strategies cost money and we need to be in the top league to maximise income. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 4 hours ago, RossCountyFan14 said: Personally I don’t see how going down ‘might be a good thing’ why can’t we implement a new long term strategy while in the top flight? Transfer windows etc don’t get longer the league below Some of our fans were saying this last season and look how it's turned out! For some it's just a different place to get pissed on a Saturday. The only good things about the lower leagues (as far as I can tell) is almost all the games are Saturday 3pm kick offs, games during international periods and some different grounds to go to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrie Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 It's a desperate coping measure to deal with an absolute trainwreck of a season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I think it's a little different for us. We've been throwing good money after bad just at trying to keep ourselves in the top-flight. To restructure and rebuild at a sustainable level for us will be much simpler and more forgiving. If we were to try to do it next season in the top flight we'd likely just end up in the mire again and panic stations would ensure the proper restructuring would be abandoned yet again in favour of trying to prolong the inevitable. It's a point I raised a few times last year, but I still think our biggest mistake as a club over the last few years (possibly even more-so than appointing Coyle) was failing to replace George Adams. Yes, the goings on behind the scenes made it near impossible for George to stay, but it didn't mean that the position wasn't required to be filled by someone afterwards. Could Fergie be that man, with Ketts becoming manager? We can afford to give that a bit of a chance in the Championship, whereas as the first sign of trouble up here there'd be people calling for their heads to roll. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 16 hours ago, RiG said: County have (allegedly) offered a contract to Vigurs. Yes please. 17 hours ago, Armand 2 said: I see Paul Paton is on the way back up the road. Pals with Kettlewell from their Queens Park days, I can certainly see him ending up in Dingwall. Imagine County would take him in either division too. No thank you. On 5/9/2018 at 12:09, Forfinn said: Sacking McIntyre was the right thing to do. Replacing him with Coyle was not. I'm not sure replacing Coyle with Kettlewell/Ferguson was the right move, either. On 5/9/2018 at 13:08, yoda said: Two or three of us were discussing on Friday (pre-match, I think) that relegation would likely be no bad thing in the long-term. There's just so much deadwood needing shifted. Stay up and there's a big chance that we'll get another summer of short-term thinking and bad recruitment. Go down, take the hit, but actually get some 'strategy' instead of pissing money up the wall on short-deal huddies. Getting relegated from the First Division was shit but turned out to be a good thing. It pretty much laid the groundwork for the Scottish Cup final and promotion to the SPL. I'm not saying that relegation this time will reap the same results but I'm not overly fussed if it happens. Absolutely. Far worse things have happened to County than this season. Clear out the deadwood, cut the over-spending, return to our natural level as a mid-table Championship side with the odd foray into the top flight. Look back on the last ten years as an enjoyable fluke. And for crying out loud, let's never talk of David N'Gog ever again. I just hope our fans are ready for all of our "best" players to leave. The likes of Dyke and Tumilty are more than adequate Championship players, and with Ashmore and McIver I'm quite optimistic for a younger, fresher, more dynamic side. Of course, we could keep the band together and absolutely destroy the Championship - I just wonder if Uncle Roy/the players will have the patience for that. It'll be great to get away from the Premiership shite as well. Would happily never play Rangers or Celtic, Hearts or Hibs ever again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forfinn Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Staggie52 said: It’s a coping mechanism as far as I can see. I think it's a coping mechanism to some extent. I'll be pretty gutted if/when we go down, but there's part of me that's looking forward to the change of scene. I don't think anyone expected us to stay in the top flight forever. This day was always going to come at some point. Ross County have been in the top flight for six seasons - an achievement none of us would have thought possible 20 years ago. It's incredible, and we've had some great times, but there hasn't been any enjoyment in watching Ross County since we peaked winning the League Cup in 2016. With natural order restored ((c) Willie Miller) in the top flight, there's less chance of finishing top six or winning a cup, so realistically we'll be involved in a relegation fight every year should we stay up. If we go down, barring complete implosion, we should be at least challenging for the play-offs every season. We might not come straight back up, but winning reasonably regularly, albeit at a lower level would surely be more enjoyable than being gubbed every week. There's always going to be concern over finances, but with a bit of assistance from Roy and parachute payments, we should be able to be pretty much self-sustaining at Championship level. Then there's the away days. To be honest, I'm a bit bored of visiting the same places every season. A few new and different venues with a bit more character would be welcome. I'd take a trip to Dumfries over Celtic Park or Ibrox any day. tl;dr verson: I'll be initially gutted if we get relegated, but I'll get over it fairly quickly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebonce Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I like David Ngog. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I like David Ngog. Goddamnit. I knew I should have used Effiong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrie Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Hearing rumours that Midge has been offered a contract with Dundee. While he's been a fantastic servant for the club, he's been a long way from his best this season. The right time for ways to part again? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartTaylor Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 The last of the Div1 invincibles.. until Vigurs returns 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrie Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Imagine us winning a trophy without Midge in the side. Hasn't happened since 98/99. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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