Monkey Tennis Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, HK Hibee said: Central defence. Get that wrong and you will struggle thinking about this a different way I have recently been thinking about which player I would pick first, from any era, if I was trying to pick my best ever team. Wanted it to be maradona but have decided it would be Keane - not sure if this is a positional thing or that he is just a guy who would do anything to win. Maradona is an excellent example of how a brilliant attacking player can transform what a side is capable of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Other Foot Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Disagree vociferously with the shouts for striker. You could have a goal scoring supremo in midfield who still does the business in the centre of the park 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Estragon said: Not sure this really supports your argument. They could start with an outfield player with a similar pedigree in any position and do the same. Aye fair enough that's not a good example. An excellent keeper can make all the difference. Siegriest was the difference between us (briefly) appearing in Europe this year and possibly being relegated the year before. Outside of the top keepers the rest are a much of a muchness. Again I think the transfer fees and wages speak for themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL12 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Richey Edwards said: Missionary. Ah, you meant FOOTBALL positions.... Ayr are always getting fucked, so I understand your confusion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieKTID Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 From a Killie perspective looking back at the last 4 or 5 seasons I'd say a decent keeper makes all the difference. We've had some good ones like Bachmann and Hemming, we've also had some utter donkeys like Branescu, Rogers and Doyle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, NFL12 said: Ayr are always getting fucked, so I understand your confusion. You're quite funny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 hours ago, The Other Foot said: Disagree vociferously with the shouts for striker. You could have a goal scoring supremo in midfield who still does the business in the centre of the park Not really though. Frank Lampard, for example, was a brilliant goal-scoring midfielder. He scored less than one non-penalty goal every four matches in the Premiership, which is a record even a mediocre striker would beat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 A good solid defence can pretty much protect the keeper from even having to make a serious save, if your defence is shit though then obv a decent keeper is needed to make brilliant saves. You can def get by with a competent keeper if your defence is decent though. So on that basis i'd say a 20-30 + goals a season striker, and the transfer market tends to put a higher price on goal scorers too, esp if they're strikers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted August 19, 2022 Author Share Posted August 19, 2022 For all the people saying goalkeeper (including me) I would like to ask who would you rather sign if you could. Either Mbappe (insert alternative top striker) or Ederson (or alternative top goalkeeper) So even though I think goalkeeper may be more important I would have to say I would pick Mbappe over any goalkeeper in the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidernation Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 The journalist with his head furthest up the sevco/sellik arse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boozyBJ Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) The most important player in any team is the one who can supply, a half decent striker, the chances to score. Eremenko made Conner Salmon look like prime Michael Higdon Edited August 19, 2022 by boozyBJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 If keeper was the most important position it would be the best paid with the highest transfer fees, but it's not, it's always high scoring attackers and creative, goal scoring midfeilders. These are the guys that win teams trophies. Keeper is important, but really it's just important not to f**k it up. You don't really need a superstar keeper, you just need one who'll do the basics well, make the saves you'd expect them to make, and not make many mistakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMCs Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 The only correct answer is striker/forward. The players that get you goals. That's why they get paid the most. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezz Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) It’s goalkeeper for me. Pereira at Hearts and Doyle at Killie played huge roles in those two being relegated in recent years. Siegrist took United from potential relegation to top 6 and Europe, and for my own team, I’m not sure we’d still be a Premiership club if Liam Kelly hadn’t joined in Jan 2021 when we were bottom of the league with Aaron Chapman between the sticks. Keepers probably have the biggest impact on the confidence of their teammates to, a dodgy keeper can make even a solid back line fall to pieces if they’re forced to alter their game to protect a dodgy keeper. Edited August 20, 2022 by dezz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Stagsby Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 I think if we pull everyone’s thoughts on this together nobody’s going to argue with the suggestion that the absolute ideal would be a totally reliable (between the sticks) goalkeeper who also chips in with 15-20 goals per season at the other end…? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 100% a Keeper. You get points if a Keeper is decent, even if you don't have a striker at all, a clean sheet guarantees points. A decent striker helps to get all 3 points, but if your Keeper is shite, how many is your striker going to have to score in a game to get those points? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thenorthernlight Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 In all my years, I only thought there was one. Missionary 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 52 minutes ago, Thenorthernlight said: In all my years, I only thought there was one. Missionary 3rd time someone has made this joke in 3 pages of content. Do better, P&B. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Thing is you ask people from different countries this question you get different answers, probably even supporters of different teams. You ask an AC Milan supporter in the mid 90’s they’d say centre half and next in line would be the guy standing beside him. Napoli, they’d say a number 10 because they seen how one player can lift a team of mediocrity to success. Strikers, playmakers carry more of a premium because there’s less of them that deliver. The market is flooded with goalkeepers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 On 20/08/2022 at 10:43, Kapowzer said: Thing is you ask people from different countries this question you get different answers, probably even supporters of different teams. You ask an AC Milan supporter in the mid 90’s they’d say centre half and next in line would be the guy standing beside him. Napoli, they’d say a number 10 because they seen how one player can lift a team of mediocrity to success. Strikers, playmakers carry more of a premium because there’s less of them that deliver. The market is flooded with goalkeepers. Agree that the value of strikers is due to supply and demand, there’s just not that many guys out there who can do it. Additionally, these are the guys who bring spectators through the turnstiles. None of the above is evidence that it is the ‘most important’ position in a team structure. Saying that, I would still say it’s your striker/primary goal threat that is the most important individual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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