Monkey Tennis Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Antlion said: Sorry to thwart a bit of white knighting. Ffs, why do discussions on here need to head in such a direction? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, Monkey Tennis said: Mmmm, you're being a bit silly Mate. I refer you to all the things they have done 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 46 minutes ago, Jedi said: Except we won't really we will? Except we will. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Monkey Tennis said: Ffs, why do discussions on here need to head in such a direction? 7 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: You were clearly implying that nobody was saying Sir Keir’s Labour is exactly the same as the current Tories. That's not the case. It’s a mystery alright. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, williemillersmoustache said: I refer you to all the things they have done All the things Labour have done, equate to those the Tufton Street inspired Tories would have done, had they retained power for longer? Aye, ok. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, virginton said: Nobody cares. Fair play, cheers....good to see all posts 'equal', will bear that in mind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, Jedi said: Is the Scottish parliament (currently) more representative of the voters who reside in Scotland, than the Scottish MP's who take part in the UK parliament given the disparity of populations between Scotland and England? Of course. And yes, in an Independent Scottish parliament you get the government which the party with the largest number of seats represents, same as you do at Westminster, or elsewhere. Under the current system the SNP will still dominate the Independent Scottish parliament though. Also, even though it is down the list of priorities, I still fail to see how having your interest rates (which are a large driver of economic policy) as well as your lender of last resort being held by a 'foreign' government is really 'Independence', as the proposal to use sterling for some time makes it. Rather it is more a Scottish parliament with 'more' powers, following a Yes vote. Ok, we get it, you are against Independence, it’s a perfectly valid position to take. You feel this place is just an echo chamber & that Yes posters should have all the answers, we don’t & it’s impossible to know exactly what Scotland will look like after Independence. There are just too many factors - who will the SG be negotiating with on behalf of rUK? What will the EU say after a valid Yes vote, etc etc. I want Independence for many reasons, the main one being that I view Scotland as a different persuasion politically & socially from England & Wales, we have an electorate that wanted to remain in the EU, who welcomes immigrants (we need them), are more left leaning in aspects of social care….. I could go on, but feel I’m de-railing this point & laugh thread. Pop over to the Indy Ref thread & make a case for the Union. Please. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, Antlion said: It’s a mystery alright. That doesn't work as any kind of answer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I've always been fascinated by the fact that insofar as politics inside England is concerned, for all the flag-shagging, British nationalist, pro-union hark back to the Empire shite goes down great, you could equally as viably stand on a 'lets have a referendum on booting the manky sponging Jocks out' platform and you'd also hoover up a massive share of the vote for that alone. Maybe instead of campaigning for a 2nd Scots Indi ref, the SNP should instead be campaigning for a 1st English Scots Indi Ref. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Monkey Tennis said: All the things Labour have done, equate to those the Tufton Street inspired Tories would have done, had they retained power for longer? Aye, ok. The Tories they are in coalitions with? OK? Aye. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 42 minutes ago, Jedi said: Funnily enough, no. You will find all the answers in some detail, on immigration, trade unions, Independence, the economy, Europe and more on this one, and the 'What is the point of Labour'. What we don't have beyond 'get the government you vote for', is answers on what an Independent Scotland will look like though. Well obviously, given that we've not had that opportunity, however when we look at the likes of Ireland and more recently Slovakia we could make pretty decent assumptions on how things would work out. What we CAN say for sure, is that the status quo of being ruled from Westminster is a complete and utter shambles and is detrimental to almost every single one of us. Why would anyone in their right mind choose definite failure over hope ??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Quitely Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 If Boris Johnson is remotely the answer then what the f**k is the question ? Unbelievable doesn't begin to cover it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Attacking the SNP and the SNP vision for independence from the left or from a "too nanny state" is fair enough. Using it as an argument against independence and staying in the union is completely mental. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 3 hours ago, jagfox said: I for one would welcome our new Lettuce overlords, can't be any worse than the Tories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oneteaminglasgow Posted October 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2022 Being serious for a moment, imagine spending your whole life dreaming of being prime minister, preparing for it and always working the angle to get there, then it comes and you immediately kill the Queen, crash the economy and get forced to resign after a month. What a fucking catastrophe of a Human. 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Watching BBC news. Tory MP for Dudley currently being interviewed banging the drum for Johnstone. Never seen him before but he's a fucking c**t! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Father Ted said: I for one would welcome our new Lettuce overlords, can't be any worse than the Tories. Caesar Salad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, Jedi said: You really have lost me here.....as a Labour supporter I am tears at the crumbling of the Tories? Ah, I think I might get it....that's because Labour are the same as the Tories. Yes they are as far as Scotland is concerned, they support Brexit and are anti Scottish Independence. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, MuckleMoo said: Watching BBC news. Tory MP for Dudley currently being interviewed banging the drum for Johnstone. Never seen him before but he's a fucking c**t! I think that some sanity may break out before long. Most of the loonies who want BJ are doing the rounds, but there are literally hundreds of tory MPs who think hes a fuckwit. The 1922 committee will require a hurdle of - say 75 MPs - who are willing to say "aye, this is the guy for me". Bearing in mind BJ still has a standards committee hearing (which he probably comes out of poorly), I think its only the real bammers who are sticking their necks on the block right now. More chance of it being a runoff with Sunak and Mordaunt and the membership - again - voting for the "non brown" candidate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I hope BJ stands & wins, just on the off chance that some twat calls him Joris Bohnson (twice) again! Great laugh that was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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