wirez Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Humza without the Murrels? Be like Emu without Rod Hull. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 A week is a long time in politics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: The thing has turned into a shit show. Hopefully Yousaf is elected and then the psychodrama can be but to one side and the party can build support for its key objective. It definitely won’t be put to one side. Yousaf was obviously the preferred candidate of Sturgeon and Murrell and with them both gone the sections of the party who were mostly kept in line by their authoritarian leadership of the party will be emboldened by their exit. This shambles is no less than the SNP deserves after a number of years of terrible governance. You’d hope they’d get their act together but I doubt it. Edited March 18 by MazzyStar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 hours ago, virginton said: A: Because the highest internal office within the party is already mired in an investigation of serious wrongdoing. If the SNP wants to avoid the sleaze tag being pinned on the whole party rather than Murrell's outrageously bald head, it needs to hold itself to a higher standard of scrutiny than the fucking Tories. An organisation with nothing to hide has nothing to fear from transparency. Doesn't bother me that bit though I won't defend those at the top either. It does bother me though if the winner is closer to those Tories politically or socially. Myself and lots of others just won't vote for someone who belives - and may act on these beliefs in Parliament - that my children are destined for hellfire as I am not married. This type of issue was a millstone around the neck of the former Lib Dem leader, Tim Farron. Forbes will get more scrutiny and challenging than he did. Anyway, seems as if Murrell has gone. Perhaps that it for the best. That and best-of-a-bad lot Yousaf winning before an adult takes the reins again in a year or two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 16 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Murrell resigning doesn't change the fact that Regan is a fucking moon howler. The sooner she fucks off to Alba, the better. The irony of sleazy Salmond slithering back on to the BBC yesterday over the membership row is that the SNP is still a huge party and with many more voters than members. Alba, on the other hand, has more members than voters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 19 minutes ago, AyrExile said: What now for the Snp. The idiots left behind who haven't been allowed to think for themselves having to run the show. Will there be further fallout from the dismantling of the Murrell OCG. Pete leaving will probably help the party longer term but a bit of pain first to find their new level I shudder to think of Ash Regan thinking for herself, it's bad enough with Kirk Torrance and Cherry doing it for her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Brazil Forever Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I wonder if he will want his loan back now ? And will he receive his redundancy money and his bonus for all his successful administration of the Party ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Live footage of the SNP leadership contest. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 This is a great day. 8 years too late right enough but at long last. The very antithesis of transparency and proponent of gerrymandering within the party. Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, Blue Brazil Forever said: I wonder if he will want his loan back now ? And will he receive his redundancy money and his bonus for all his successful administration of the Party ? Aye, 8 election victories in a row is a terrible record. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Aye, 8 election victories in a row is a terrible record. I think the election victories are more to do with the first minister than the CEO. I couldn't even name you a CEO of any other party or the SNP CEO before Murrell. I suspect that tells its own story. This is a man who consistently re-wrote the rules, when members elected people to the NEC he didn't like he just directly appointed more to the NEC to regain control. When members elected committees and he lost control he refused to allow the committees to meet as only HQ could call committee meeting. When the Treasurer and Audit Committee wanted to see the accounts, he blocked access. He has damaged the party ridiculously. This is long overdue. That's before we talk about financial impropriety. The man should not be celebrated but derided. I'm surprised you're white knighting him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie adie Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I was sent a voting ballot despite have ended my membership more than 3 yrs ago 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, Willie adie said: I was sent a voting ballot despite have ended my membership more than 3 yrs ago Don't worry about it, your vote has already been cast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Trogdor said: The man should not be celebrated but derided. I'm surprised you're white knighting him. You shouldn't be. He was also white knighting for the world's shittest dentist for the best part of two years. Edited March 18 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, Trogdor said: I think the election victories are more to do with the first minister than the CEO. I couldn't even name you a CEO of any other party or the SNP CEO before Murrell. I suspect that tells its own story. The only reason you know his name is probably because of who he's married to. It's probably also the main reason for all the unsubstantiated allegations. Anyone who uses the rules to stop Cherry getting into a position of power in the party is OK in my book. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotiaNostra Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 we all thought it would be a shitshow but it just keeps on going, what next ?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The only reason you know his name is probably because of who he's married to. It's probably also the main reason for all the unsubstantiated allegations. Anyone who uses the rules to stop Cherry getting into a position of power in the party is OK in my book. You're better than that. Everything in my post is factual not unsubstantiated. A members organisation that treats its members with contempt isn't much of a members organisation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotiaNostra Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) its not enough to win elections though you actually have to implement policies and improve things once your in power, thats the failure Edited March 18 by ScotiaNostra 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 9 minutes ago, Trogdor said: You're better than that. Everything in my post is factual not unsubstantiated. A members organisation that treats its members with contempt isn't much of a members organisation. I was talking about the fraud allegations, not using his knowledge of the rulebook to get a desired outcome which is standard politics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 14 minutes ago, welshbairn said: It's probably also the main reason for all the unsubstantiated allegations. So you're claiming that the investigative journalism of Private Eye regarding the Ted Crilly campaign funds was fabricated because Sturgeon's husband? Quote Anyone who uses the rules to stop Cherry getting into a position of power in the party is OK in my book. So misuse of office is acceptable so long as it's working against people you don't like. Absolutely laughable stuff, if this didn't also seem to be the mainstream SNP line on the issue too. We're fast approaching a Scottish Labour in the early 2000s level of arrogance and party functionalism. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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