Wee Bully Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, orfc said: The same Scottish press that coughed and looked the other way when LORD STUART WINGS was banging the drum about the missing 600k. And what’s the output from that? Any charges laid yet? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 29 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: Wonder why Starmer isn't on your list Give it time..the tabloids will be going into overdrive to target Starmer, closer it gets to a GE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Jedi2 said: Give it time..the tabloids will be going into overdrive to target Starmer, closer it gets to a GE And so they should, because he’s genocide supporting vermin. Edit: they won’t target him for this reason obvs, but it should be brought up literally every second of Starmer’s remaining life. Edited January 31 by oneteaminglasgow -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotiaNostra Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I dont really get how they werent keeping minutes from meetings like the gold command meetings. Any meeting, its such a basic thing to do and in government you would expect it even more. Add that to everything else and its a drip feed over last few years of an amateurish and incompetent set-up. Is it because with its success the SNP expanded relatively quickly and basically when that happened too many people at once didnt have a clue what they were doing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 5 hours ago, SandyCromarty said: We are forcibly chained to a corrupt westminster that has used and abused Scots in their wars for centuries with no reward other than to dump us in our wasteland cities and destroyed our steel and shipbuilding industries. No other country would accept this just as the other 65 countries throughout the world have declared Independence from england once they realised how they were being used. There's not nothing in this but its an inadequate reading of the history. Take the map; Jamaica and USA had polar opposite reasons for secceding from London rule. Jamaica did so to decolonise while USA did so to expand the settler colonial project. Regarding Scotland's role in both, we exported the settlers to USA and the slavers to Jamaica. Edinburgh elites commanded the British forces of the Maroon wars. Scots spilled blood to keep Africans enslaved in Jamaica. Strictly within the context of the British metropole, its true that the further the working class were from London, the less favourable their treatment. Yet that treatment didn't compare to what was visited upon the colonised. The Highland Famine, while still criminal and terrible in its own right, was not on the scale of the Irish Famine or the Bengal Famine. The most marginalised Scots (again often Highlanders) regularly formed the tip of the imperial spear, whether as settlers or soldiers. Also you can't lament the decline of Scottish shipbuilding in an ostensibly anti-imperialist comment when that industry was a direct product of empire. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 11 minutes ago, ScotiaNostra said: I dont really get how they werent keeping minutes from meetings like the gold command meetings. Any meeting, its such a basic thing to do and in government you would expect it even more. Add that to everything else and its a drip feed over last few years of an amateurish and incompetent set-up. Is it because with its success the SNP expanded relatively quickly and basically when that happened too many people at once didnt have a clue what they were doing I haven't been to a meeting that was minuted for years includingat the Scottish Govt. They are usually just recorded or filmed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotiaNostra Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: I haven't been to a meeting that was minuted for years includingat the Scottish Govt. They are usually just recorded or filmed. if they were recorded or filmed then no need for minutes, were these? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 16 minutes ago, ScotiaNostra said: if they were recorded or filmed then no need for minutes, were these? Dont know but surely cabinet meetings would be, no one seemed to ask these questions just obsessing over WhatsApp. No idea how the line of questioning today will ever get the answers the relatives are looking for. There spokeswoman said as much on the news this evening. The whole thing is just politicking in front of cameras. From Holyrood v Westminster to the factions within the SNP it's just a huge waste of public funds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: Dont know but surely cabinet meetings would be, no one seemed to ask these questions just obsessing over WhatsApp. No idea how the line of questioning today will ever get the answers the relatives are looking for. There spokeswoman said as much on the news this evening. The whole thing is just politicking in front of cameras. From Holyrood v Westminster to the factions within the SNP it's just a huge waste of public funds. It’s already come out in the enquiry there is no record of the gold command meetings, several times. Swinney also stated yesterday there was no record of the resilience team/committee meetings. GRAAS or something it was called. He headed it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotiaNostra Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, Left Back said: It’s already come out in the enquiry there is no record of the gold command meetings, several times. Swinney also stated yesterday there was no record of the resilience team/committee meetings. GRAAS or something it was called. He headed it up. Thats the thing then, it reeks of incompetence hard to believe really 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, orfc said: The same Scottish press that coughed and looked the other way when LORD STUART WINGS was banging the drum about the missing 600k. Don't remember him being married to a peer of the realm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 5 hours ago, Jedi2 said: So, Brown, Milliband, and particularly Corbyn weren't 'hounded' and vilified by the mainstream media, on different platforms, newsprint, TV, radio, and Social Media? It's 'only' the SNP who come in for 'any' criticism....seriously? These are political individuals far removed from a country's duly elected government such as ours which continually sustains westminster organised attacks passed to their friends and allies in the tory owned TV and print media. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, SandyCromarty said: These are political individuals far removed from a country's duly elected government such as ours which continually sustains westminster organised attacks passed to their friends and allies in the tory owned TV and print media. There isn't a single supporter of a political party or cause that thinks the media is biased in favour of their cause. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, sparky88 said: There isn't a single supporter of a political party or cause that thinks the media is biased in favour of their cause. So with that tory voters buy the Daily Mail and watch GB news knowing full well that both are major backers of the Labour party? Hello, is there anybody in there? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 7 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said: So with that tory voters buy the Daily Mail and watch GB news knowing full well that both are major backers of the Labour party? Hello, is there anybody in there? Or Labour supporters that buy the Mirror or SNP supporters that buy the National? What’s your point. There are media outlets that support most political views. Not aware of any Lib Dem ones. Perhaps they should be moaning about bias. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Freedom Farter said: Edinburgh elites commanded the British forces of the Maroon wars. A particularly vicious war that one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said: So with that tory voters buy the Daily Mail and watch GB news knowing full well that both are major backers of the Labour party? Hello, is there anybody in there? Every single political party thinks the BBC is biased against them. Without exception. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 14 minutes ago, sparky88 said: Every single political party thinks the BBC is biased against them. Without exception. There’s a logical conclusion to be drawn from that… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, Left Back said: There’s a logical conclusion to be drawn from that… Indeed. But it's an uncomfortable one if you want them to be the bogeyman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said: These are political individuals far removed from a country's duly elected government such as ours which continually sustains westminster organised attacks passed to their friends and allies in the tory owned TV and print media. Er.. Gordon Brown was the Prime Minister at the time during which he was most vilified on a pretty much daily basis by the right wing tabloids, TV and social media. Last time I checked, Scotland was part of the UK between 2007-10 during Brown's tenure, therefore he was hardly 'far removed' from a country's 'duly elected government' (a govt which was elected across the whole of the UK in the 2005 GE in which Labour won 41 seats in Scotland to the SNP's 6)...so the right wing media were hounding the elected Prime Minister of a govt put there by a sizeable majority of Scottish voters. Edited January 31 by Jedi2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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