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12 minutes ago, Left Back said:

If it was any other party displaying financial shenanigans like this you’d be up in arms about it.  Be honest with yourself as we all know it’s true.

From the outside looking in it seems the SNP are skint, Murrell has been propping them up for years and doing his best to hide that fact.  It seems like he’s been breaching Electoral Commission rules whilst doing so and there’s still allegations about missing money and personal gain.

This, as you well know, is a lot more than Murrell supports the SNP.  It seems to be an ongoing pattern of behaviour.

^^^ Says the totally impartial & unbiased commentator ^^^

Would you like to make a charity bet that the Electoral Commission don't impose a fine?

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1 minute ago, lichtgilphead said:

^^^ Says the totally impartial ^ unbiased commentator ^^^

Would you like to make a charity bet that the Electoral Commission don't impose a fine?

Nope, because I couldn’t care less one way or another whether a fine is levied or not.  I’d suspect the SNP don’t care about any fine either but it’s another blow to their public image.
 

I would also think I’ve been quite clear in my posts since I joined this site that I have no love for any political party and off the top of my head I couldn’t name a single politician I currently have any respect for.  In case you’re in any doubt they’re all self serving fannies out for personal gain imo.

There’s only one poster in this conversation displaying bias (well 2 actually when you include @sophia).  

If this had been Labour, or the Conservatives or any other party I’d be pointing out the same rules and pattern of behaviour.  I suspect I probably wouldn’t have to though as there would be people queuing up in this forum to get there first.

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4 minutes ago, Left Back said:

Nope, because I couldn’t care less one way or another whether a fine is levied or not.  I’d suspect the SNP don’t care about any fine either but it’s another blow to their public image.
 

I would also think I’ve been quite clear in my posts since I joined this site that I have no love for any political party and off the top of my head I couldn’t name a single politician I currently have any respect for.  In case you’re in any doubt they’re all self serving fannies out for personal gain imo.

There’s only one poster in this conversation displaying bias (well 2 actually when you include @sophia).  

If this had been Labour, or the Conservatives or any other party I’d be pointing out the same rules and pattern of behaviour.  I suspect I probably wouldn’t have to though as there would be people queuing up in this forum to get there first.

^^^ All mouth, no trousers^^^

To be honest, your "I would have pointed out Lab/Con breaches if other posters hadn't done it first" schtick isn't really going to convince anyone.

However, I'll give you a the benefit of the doubt & look forward to your condemnation of any Yoon party when they next breach Electotal Commission rules. Fair enough?

 

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8 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said:

^^^ All mouth, no trousers^^^

To be honest, your "I would have pointed out Lab/Con breaches if other posters hadn't done it first" schtick isn't really going to convince anyone.

However, I'll give you a the benefit of the doubt & look forward to your condemnation of any Yoon party when they next breach Electotal Commission rules. Fair enough?

 

Are you saying they’re rigging the counts now?

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8 hours ago, Left Back said:

If it was any other party displaying financial shenanigans like this you’d be up in arms about it.  Be honest with yourself as we all know it’s true.

From the outside looking in it seems the SNP are skint, Murrell has been propping them up for years and doing his best to hide that fact.  It seems like he’s been breaching Electoral Commission rules whilst doing so and there’s still allegations about missing money and personal gain.

This, as you well know, is a lot more than Murrell supports the SNP.  It seems to be an ongoing pattern of behaviour.

Labour has had fines for not properly registering 15 or 20 donations, Lib Dems at least twice as many, Tories double figures.

The fines are in the region of £250 for each incident - its nothing.

The issue for me is that this has been turned into "a thing" by the BBC in a way they really didnt with those other parties.

Which, as you know, seems to be an ongoing pattern of behaviour.

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Odd this was declared in October but never reported at the time. Presumably the media felt the whole issue needed a "bump" and were sitting on this for just such an occasion. Given both Labour and the Tories have been pulled up for this in the past with little recourse when the sums were up to 100 times more, this would appear to be a total non story.

As I said about the XL bully dog stuff, there are umpteen issues you can legitimately have a go at the current Scottish Govt about but it seems the media are heading (possibly even being lead) down ever more obscure rabbit holes.

 

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47 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

Odd this was declared in October but never reported at the time. Presumably the media felt the whole issue needed a "bump" and were sitting on this for just such an occasion. Given both Labour and the Tories have been pulled up for this in the past with little recourse when the sums were up to 100 times more, this would appear to be a total non story.

Declared to the Electoral Commission in October. Published thereafter. The Electoral Commission don't publish disclosures instantly.

I'm not sure this has been held in reserve given its really a non-story even relative to the big loan that Murrell gave the party, of which a chunk is still outstanding.

However, it does speak to the cashflow issues the SNP has and the fact these were happening at least a couple of years before the £600k was spent. Which is interesting, I'm sure the good Reverend will be joining the dots on his detective board as we type.

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10 hours ago, orfc said:

One was paid back within 2 days?

 

That's the interesting bit to me, the SNP so cash poor they needed the equivalent of a payday loan. They must have needed 7.5k to pay for something very urgently and then got enough income 48 hours later to pay it back? Did they stick a bet on? 

Probably a sloppy lawyer not having the next persons estate processed has hit cash flow 

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The media consistently hold the SNP to a completely different standard to other political parties. 

I've no problem with them reporting the issue, but it's done in such a tabloidesque over-the-top way  one would think the copy had been provided by the Scottish Conservative Central Office.

I suspect there will be a fine but as others have pointed out, other political parties have done the same,  with larger sums, yet they were not reported on in any way like this has been.

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6 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

The media consistently hold the SNP to a completely different standard to other political parties. 

I've no problem with them reporting the issue, but it's done in such a tabloidesque over-the-top way  one would think the copy had been provided by the Scottish Conservative Central Office.

I suspect there will be a fine but as others have pointed out, other political parties have done the same,  with larger sums, yet they were not reported on in any way like this has been.

I clicked on the link expecting to read something substantive and as you say it couldn't get more tabloid if the headline was See Sam Fox as you've never seen her before. 

It's weird journalism for weirdos and it's weird that it's accepted. 

Meanwhile... 

 

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On 06/01/2024 at 12:48, DeeTillEhDeh said:

The media consistently hold the SNP to a completely different standard to other political parties. 

I've no problem with them reporting the issue, but it's done in such a tabloidesque over-the-top way  one would think the copy had been provided by the Scottish Conservative Central Office.

I suspect there will be a fine but as others have pointed out, other political parties have done the same,  with larger sums, yet they were not reported on in any way like this has been.

Yeah but one of the main selling points in the last decade was that the SNP adhered to higher standards than Labour & the Tories so it's a bit depressing when SNP supporters are reduced to whataboutery.

I'll still vote SNP at the next GE because I think that being a peripheral part of Eng-ur-land just means ever greater economic marginalization but with less enthusiasm than before.

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47 minutes ago, btb said:

Yeah but one of the main selling points in the last decade was that the SNP adhered to higher standards than Labour & the Tories so it's a bit depressing when SNP supporters are reduced to whataboutery.

I'll still vote SNP at the next GE because I think that being a peripheral part of Eng-ur-land just means ever greater economic marginalization but with less enthusiasm than before.

Don't get me wrong - I've got real problems right now with the SNP.  But if you are going to have a go at them I can think of plenty more relevant issues than this one. 

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