Jives Miguel Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 The nick of Everton complaining about the points deduction. If they were applied in any of the 2 seasons, in which the proceeds their cheating was realised, then they'd have been relegated. Scouser victim mentality is rampant. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Are 777 still loaning them £20M a month to keep the doors open? Just imagine the tears and snotters if they fail the fit and proper owners test after all this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 36 minutes ago, ClydeTon said: The club hasn't been taken over, it still has the same owner and (mostly) the same board who ran the club into the ground. This punishment has done nothing to them, so really they haven't taken any responsibility. (It's actually gone and taken the fanbase's eyes away from them and lifted the pressure that was on them; so it's actually helped them, one could argue.) You don’t think the club getting relegated would impact the owners and the board? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydeTon Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, eez-eh said: You don’t think the club getting relegated would impact the owners and the board? It would but they quite clearly aren't getting relegated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, ClydeTon said: It would but they quite clearly aren't getting relegated. Which is the weakness of points penalties as sporting sanctions They could end up having a catastrophic impact or they could be shrugged off Viewed as a deterrent that's not necessarily a problem as nobody wants to end up having to play Russian roulette. As retribution it's going to end up looking disproportionate in hindsight one way or another 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 43 minutes ago, ClydeTon said: It would but they quite clearly aren't getting relegated. How can you be so sure? There are still plenty of games to be played. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydeTon Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, Molotov said: How can you be so sure? There are still plenty of games to be played. Luton, Burnley and Sheffield United are in the league. Come on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 59 minutes ago, ClydeTon said: It would but they quite clearly aren't getting relegated. If that’s true then why all the outrage over punishing fans and players? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 24 minutes ago, ClydeTon said: Luton, Burnley and Sheffield United are in the league. Come on. True. But Leicester or Leeds should be as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Fuctifano said: Just catching up on the highlights from the weekend. What are the odds of Roy Hodgson not surviving the season, and I mean literally? He looks awful. Can't need the stress or the money. Deadpool thread for this tempting pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawB93 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: Match Of The Day commentator Steve Wilson...'You've got to feel a bit sorry for Newcastle' Me...'Do I f***' Watched it live and they were creepily sympathetic towards them. Almost in tears applauding the brave souls who made the journey despite some trains being cancelled. And then when their consolation goal was being reviewed, G Neville was saying how he really hoped it was given for the sake of the fans because they deserved to celebrate. "Even if it's not given, at least they got to jump out their seats" Did a train crash killing thousands of Newcastle fans happen that morning and I missed it? Edited December 11, 2023 by RawB93 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 3 hours ago, ClydeTon said: Luton, Burnley and Sheffield United are in the league. Come on. And there we have it. They're not going to get relegated because other clubs below them won't spend £100m + on players they can't afford. No sporting advantage, my arsenal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydeTon Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Raven said: And there we have it. They're not going to get relegated because other clubs below them won't spend £100m + on players they can't afford. No sporting advantage, my arsenal. Sheffield United's last two promotions have seen them spend: £62.14m (2019), and £55.29m (2023). For that club, it's quite a lot. They're no Man Utd. And This season's spending comes under an owner who wants to sell the club, and is investing nothing, meaning it's effectively all from the promotion money/revenue. And it'll be a fair chunk of it. Burnley? Just a wee £95m* spent. So, you know... 34 minutes ago, Raven said: other clubs below them won't spend £100m Pretty much £100m. Luton, who are quite obviously preparing to go back down and be strong in the Championship - have spent £17m. This is also whilst having to spend £10m on their stadium, and whilst building a brand new stadium elsewhere in Luton. So, we have one club who aren't trying to stay up (Luton), one who spent a decent amount of money to try and stay up, all while having little to no investment (Sheffield Utd) and one who absolutely have splashed the big bucks to try and stay up (Burnley). But yes, that's Everton's fault... Edit: Prices are in Euros on sources, converted them to £ in this edit. Also; ETA - More on this: All three clubs have spent more on players than they have made one sales (SHU = £-28.76m / BUR = £-91.93m / LUT = £-19.5m) Everton? A profit of £36.25m. Even last season, £21.77m in profit. Thanks for playing. Edited December 11, 2023 by ClydeTon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 I didn't really care initially, but the reaction of the Everton fans makes me think the punishment was too lenient 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) Everton have admitted to breaking the rules, but think that they should have an exemption because of Covid. You know, the global pandemic that only affected one of the two Merseyside-based top flight clubs. They don't have a leg to stand on. You can make an argument that the entire concept of FFP is bollocks, but if you have a rule, of course Everton should be punished and I've no idea why anyone thinks the league should just let them off. Edited December 11, 2023 by Bully Wee Villa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Anyway, could have been a lot worse... Pontypridd United: Cymru Premier club face potential 141-point deduction after FAW probe - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67687142 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 23 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: Anyway, could have been a lot worse... Pontypridd United: Cymru Premier club face potential 141-point deduction after FAW probe - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67687142 Hand the Manchester City investigation over to the FAW... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Tbf if you read the article (which I obviously didn't bother doing before posting the link) then you can see that the headline is misleading and they've only been deducted six points so far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Bully Wee Villa said: Tbf if you read the article (which I obviously didn't bother doing before posting the link) then you can see that the headline is misleading and they've only been deducted six points so far. That's probably why it says "potential"... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 There were lots of words in that headline, I couldn't be expected to read all of them. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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