Banning Children

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

On 01/09/2023 at 18:32, parsforlife said:

Wrong way round,  bringing a brat should cost extra and you get placed in the whining rat section due to you  causing problems for other customers

Ive never read a single news article about a badly behaved child forcing an easy jet or jet2 plane etc to make an emergency landing, but plenty about adults. My wee boy has travelled transatlantic 12 odd times and flown all over Europe and behaved great. If a kid cries on a plane id rather listen to that than someone who thinks theyve been elected to sing to the whole plane etc.

On 01/09/2023 at 18:38, DrewDon said:

I don't have any thoughts on this particular proposal, but I am usually a bit sceptical of people who make a thing out of being intolerant towards children and young people. 

Agreed, big red flag. 

[Cosmic Joe]

On 03/09/2023 at 19:48, Rugster said:

Aw gonnae just shut the f**k up man?

The first to crack. I did not have you in the sweepie. 

[djchapsticks]

Sat on a flight to Spain yesterday across from an English couple and their 4 kids. The wee girl, about 7 or 8 sat next to me and was pleasant but a wee fidget. At one point she sat down and elbowed my arm as I was pouring my Jack Daniels and she spilled it on me, pretty mich drowned my left leg and t-shirt. I turned round instinctively thinking FFS and she was looking at me in horror, her wee lip trembling so immediately I caught on and told her it was fine, don't worry and accidents happen. The mum, who was across the aisle gave me an apologetic look and I sort of shrugged and smiled.

A row back from them was another family of six with dad in front with about a 4 year old and a 2 year old and mum one row back with i'd say a 5 year old and the 2 year old's twin. The twin with the mum was getting fidgety as flight was taxiing and she loudly proclaimed that if he 'didn't rap his fuckin shite, I swear to god ill rattle your arse', to a two year old baby FFS. The 4 year old, excited said 'when do we go on the plane' and she tutted and went 'we're on the plane the now ya mongo'

The problem in nearly 100% of cases isn't children, it's parents.

Edited September 5, 2023 by djchapsticks

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20 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

didn't rap his fuckin shite, I swear to god ill rattle your arse', to a two year old baby FFS.

Ffs publicly talking about battering weans hope the polis put her door in.

[HoBNob]

Since the wee guy came last October we've had two weddings, with another by the end of the year and another three next year, each wedding is different however with none of them being immediate family I don't really see the point in a <2 year old being there. 

Realistically he'd be bored for the most part, he'd far rather be at one of the grandparents going to a park/softplay/watching barney. A wedding isn't exactly a fun environment for a baby/toddler. From a parents perspective we'd then be trying to keep him entertained for the day. And probably most importantly, the bride/groom who have spunked a shed load of cash don't need the little one piping up during the ceremony. 

In the same way I wouldn't take my kid to a pub, some events/locations just aren't suited for kids of a certain age. 

[Florentine_Pogen]

On 03/09/2023 at 17:35, Richey Edwards said:

I can fly planes. Hit me up.

  Reveal hidden contents

On Microsoft Flight Simulator.

 

 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

The issue isn't children but the arsehole parents (not) looking after them.

[arab_joe]

On 03/09/2023 at 02:49, Fuctifano said:

I'm getting married in 2 months and we decided early on it would be easiest for blanket ban on kids - other than my fiancee's son, and nieces and nephews...

[Guest]

12 hours ago, djchapsticks said:

 

A row back from them was another family of six with dad in front with about a 4 year old and a 2 year old and mum one row back with i'd say a 5 year old and the 2 year old's twin. The twin with the mum was getting fidgety as flight was taxiing and she loudly proclaimed that if he 'didn't rap his fuckin shite, I swear to god ill rattle your arse', to a two year old baby FFS. The 4 year old, excited said 'when do we go on the plane' and she tutted and went 'we're on the plane the now ya mongo'

The problem in nearly 100% of cases isn't children, it's parents.

Christ, what chance have these poor bairns got in life with scum like that as parents.

[hk blues]

4 minutes ago, Empty It said:

Christ, what chance have these poor bairns got in life with scum like that as parents.

Ach, the 2 year-old wouldn't have understood it anyway.  

[Jives Miguel]

On 01/09/2023 at 19:03, pozbaird said:

I never, ever, travel without my fully charged iPhone which contains 15,760 songs at present, and, importantly… Bose noise cancelling over-ear headphones. Never. Leave. Home. Without.

[ICTChris]

My friend was working in the Scot-Mid on Easter Road years ago when a couple with a small toddler came in.  The toddler was crying a bit and the father (presumably) turned to the mother and said "Shut that c**t up!", referring to the upset child.  The kid will probably be in their 20s now, hope they are OK.

 

[Silvio Tattiescone]

This might sound really old-fashioned but I'm 50-cough and wouldn't dream of swearing in front of my mum. My neighbours however - jeez-o.  The old woman across from us regularly has her family round and the language would make a docker blush. To hear a bairn of about 5 or 6 calling his gran a "greedy c**t" for not giving him more sweets was one highlight. 

 

However, I met two of the teenage grandsons down the street and they were exceptionally polite and well-spoken so it might just be reacting to the environment. 

[kennie makevin]

1 hour ago, ICTChris said:

My friend was working in the Scot-Mid on Easter Road years ago when a couple with a small toddler came in.  The toddler was crying a bit and the father (presumably) turned to the mother and said "Shut that c**t up!", referring to the upset child.  The kid will probably be in their 20s now, hope they are OK.

 

Uncalled for and unacceptable. "Shut that child up" is sufficient.

[Granny Danger]

1 hour ago, ICTChris said:

My friend was working in the Scot-Mid on Easter Road years ago when a couple with a small toddler came in.  The toddler was crying a bit and the father (presumably) turned to the mother and said "Shut that c**t up!", referring to the upset child.  The kid will probably be in their 20s now, hope they are OK.

 

It’s a vicious circle though isn’t it?  There’s every chance that the father in turn had a father who was similar and there’s also a chance that the then kid is now talking about his kid in the same way.

 

[ICTChris]

This article popped up on my phone, kind of related - https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/aug/28/unspoken-grief-childless-men

If you look at the shady corners of social media it's full of strange men talking about women not having any eggs but that overlooks that some men really desire to have children but never do.  The article also states that there's an idea that men can just easily father kids at any age which isn't entirely true. 

Regarding the shady corners of the internet, a video of a young (late 20s) single woman describing her life on TikTok has gone viral on Twitter, with the predictable crew of strange men criticising her viciously.  I saw someone comment on it that the people piling on (or attempting to) are just bullies who want to feel superior and that they've won life by having a certain lifestyle.  

[BFTD]

24 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

This article popped up on my phone, kind of related - https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/aug/28/unspoken-grief-childless-men

If you look at the shady corners of social media it's full of strange men talking about women not having any eggs but that overlooks that some men really desire to have children but never do.  The article also states that there's an idea that men can just easily father kids at any age which isn't entirely true. 

I'm sure that's true, but I'm not sure how much sympathy you're supposed to have for, "I was a shagabout who didn't want kids until my forties, and now I'm in agony". Everyone ends up with regrets in life, and he likely still enjoys a lifestyle that would have been curtailed if he'd had a family to raise. He could also have got involved in fostering kids who need help if he'd genuinely developed the need to be a father, and not just an urge to leave a legacy or to demand company in his old age.

If his main reason for wishing he'd had children is so he'd have his own needs met later in life, he made the right decision when he was younger. The last thing the world needs is more shite parents.

[Boo Khaki]

I've always found the "who will look after you in your dotage?" thing a bit stoneage. Who wants to inflict that on their own kids? 

Mrs is going through it right now with a pair of elderly, disabled parents who are at the point where they are a risk to themselves, no longer capable of living independently, and need to go into residential care ASAP. It's absolute hell. She has health issues of her own, works a 40 hour week with a significant commute, and is driven mental by the constant demands of Care workers and Social Work. She does what she can, but it's an enormous stress and she feels horrendously guilty for not being able to give them the care they need.

Care provision should be adequate, but it isn't, and it's invariably children and other relatives expected to pick up the shortfall. This is a societal/governmental failure, and not some sort of argument for having children in the first place.

[Silvio Tattiescone]

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[Boo Khaki]

"you're a foul-mouthed little b*****d"