Dons_1988 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, virginton said: I'm not misinterpreting it but rather highlighting the enormous cognitive dissonance at work here. On the one hand we have people wringing their hands about the huge obstacles and stigma that sexual assault complainants already face to achieve justice. On the other, we have people now arguing that a rich and powerful man must either pursue sexual assault claimants through all legal processes available, or they are tacitly admitting responsibility. That's the sort of hot take, black or white nonsense that only makes the debate about sexual misconduct more toxic. You are misinterpreting me here. The guy is heavily suggesting that he’s being targeted for a conspiracy. If his statement had just denied the allegations and I’d posted that then what you’ve said would be true. But if he’s going to stick his neck out and assume that his videos on social media have prompted a multi-million £ conspiracy to silence him with outright lies from a national media company then I’m much more comfortable being glib about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Cawdor Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 43 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Noticeable in brands video defending himself that he ‘UTTERLY REFUTES’ all the allegations but makes no mention of taking legal action. Because if this was all false then he should absolutely take legal action. He doesn't mean "refute" which would mean he was able to conclusively demonstrate that the claims are false. He (presumably) means "rebut" which simply means he disputes the claims. I would also point out to several posters who have referenced Jimmy Savile that my spelling of his surname is correct. If you need a simple mnemonic just remember that the correct spelling incorporates the word "vile". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: From what I recall, I think it was more along the lines that he wasn’t wanting them to even be covering stuff like Rebecca Adlington instead of what he considered more ‘newsworthy’ things, rather than anything else. Relatively certain he thought he'd just been on the show too long and thought TV shows like it were becoming too "boring" as the world evolved and more people complained about more things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: You are misinterpreting me here. The guy is heavily suggesting that he’s being targeted for a conspiracy. If his statement had just denied the allegations and I’d posted that then what you’ve said would be true. But if he’s going to stick his neck out and assume that his videos on social media have prompted a multi-million £ conspiracy to silence him with outright lies from a national media company then I’m much more comfortable being glib about it. Except the actual victims of glib 'sue the claimants or you're admitting guilt' hot takes spreading widely within society are almost never going to be rich and powerful people like Brand, but rather the complainants who get dragged through the courts for 'false accusations'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: You are misinterpreting me here. The guy is heavily suggesting that he’s being targeted for a conspiracy. If his statement had just denied the allegations and I’d posted that then what you’ve said would be true. But if he’s going to stick his neck out and assume that his videos on social media have prompted a multi-million £ conspiracy to silence him with outright lies from a national media company then I’m much more comfortable being glib about it. There is zero point engaging with him in good faith, he is an embittered, misogynistic arsewipe who will call you champ then post a picture of Ainsley Harriot & claim he was right all along. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy McJagface Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 47 minutes ago, BTFD said: Is it too early to claim he's suffered enough and demand people leave him alone to provide for his family? Edit: Pretty sure Frankie left MTW because the Beeb kept cutting out his even-more outrageous adlibs and he wasn't happy about his best material hitting the cutting room floor. Considering they aired the stuff about Adlington and Kerry Katona, and the infamous joke about Auld Lizzie's clacker, Christ only knows what was too harsh. (I'm missing the stuff about Katie Price, as she's been using her son to fund her bankruptcies for a couple of decades now, which is even more disgusting than any jokes he made) I’m sure he said that it was a joke about Israel which the BBC refused to air as they deemed it anti-semitic that caused him to chuck it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, throbber said: I remember Nick Hancock (who comes across as a decent enough chap) was talking about how they would abuse Luke Chadwick on They think it’s all over because of he had a face like a fire damaged apricot. He basically admitted how unpleasant the abuse was but that he didn’t really feel like it was anything nasty or that anyone would be getting hurt out of it all but I can imagine it being a horrible experience for Chadwick who was a young man trying to do his job but having his facial features ridiculed for the whole world to see. Similar happened to Rebecca Addlington with Frankie Boyle (who didn’t want to ridicule her appearance and left the show because of it) but there was definitely an abusive toxic media culture back then that made certain people fair game for heinous personal abuse. I think looking at the way brand conducted himself in the 00’s with all the knowledge we have nowadays doesn’t tell the entire story. Yeah, a truly cursed era. Reality TV, poverty porn, c***s like Brand, Jeremy Kyle, Bo Selecta etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Bo Selecta was pretty decent in fairness 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, Moomintroll said: There is zero point engaging with him in good faith, he is an embittered, misogynistic arsewipe who will call you champ then post a picture of Ainsley Harriot & claim he was right all along. Only he knows if he was arguing in bad faith. I didn’t take any of it badly, I thought he made good points but didn’t really apply to what id actually said. I don’t really have a problem with that. I did make a flippant comment without having even seen the documentary so I left myself open a bit in fairness. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 When will the David Jason documentary be? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Carl Cort's Hamstring said: When will the David Jason documentary be? Not are Del boy too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Russell Brand raped David Jason? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, throbber said: Bo selecta was worse than cancer of the anus I was literally thinking the exact same phrase I quite liked the "don't say f**k or bugger" catchphrase, and found the Mel B parody amusing until I found out that she actually was from Lancashire and it stopped being funny. Other than that, everything Leigh Francis has done has been utterly dire, and the absolute definition of ITV2. 2 minutes ago, Carl Cort's Hamstring said: When will the David Jason documentary be? I think the timeline is approximately six months to a year after all the "nation's treasure" memorial TV specials have finished. Everyone has to hold off until then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby82 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, Derry Alli said: Russell Brand raped David Jason? He wanked a boy off in a pub toilet for some shite TV programme but don't think it was Del Boy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 You can bet a wedge that the programme was checked to within an inch of its life. I read somewhere that it’s been being made since 2019, I bet a substantial part of that was taken up with making sure it was all legally air tight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gibby82 said: He wanked a boy off in a pub toilet for some shite TV programme 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeefc1783 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, Bert Raccoon said: Bo Selecta was pretty decent in fairness Craig David disagrees 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Bridge Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 It were proper bo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Golden 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eindhovendee Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 It's on again tonight at 10:50 on C4 for anyone without catch up etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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